Reid looks like he's watching his feet, to me. I'm sure there is lots of b.s. on the Senate floor.
Posted by T2 at April 6, 2006 09:29 AMYou know, I'm usually all about full-force, relentless attack and pounding the enemy into submission...but it might actually be wise in this instance to sit back and let the GOP destroy itself. A basic rule of war is to resist the urge to impede the self-destructive acts of an enemy.
And believe me...I know war.
Posted by God Of War at April 6, 2006 09:45 AMI can't quite tell about Reid because of the angle. He appears to be smiling but one thing is astonishingly clear. Frist lost and he knows it.
Posted by Daryl at April 6, 2006 09:48 AM...but it might actually be wise in this instance to sit back and let the GOP destroy itself.
I completely agree. This issue could divide the GOP in a huge way with the corporate cons and the paleocons at such distinct odds with each other. I don't know if the GOP "big tent" will be able to compromise on this issue enough to hold it together for the sake of conservative control.
Posted by ann at April 6, 2006 09:49 AMAnd you wonder why the average American hates Democrats?
Of course with new immigration policies the illegal immigrants that Democrats love so much will become the average American.
Democrats are turning the United States into a nation of criminals.
Posted by shoelimpy at April 6, 2006 09:58 AMann:
It can't hold. The Southern Strategy (racism) is one of the main foundations of the modern GOP. It's being challenged right now. We know Oxy Boy's followers and places like the AOL comment board after midnight believe in it passionately.
It may lose this year and even in 2008 but the Southern strategy will survive. The folks who believe in it are many and they're not going away.
Posted by Daryl at April 6, 2006 10:02 AM
Of course with new immigration policies the illegal immigrants that Democrats love so much will become the average American.
It's the Republican owned big businesses that love immigrants so much. Get a clue. Cheap labor means big profits.
Democrats are turning the United States into a nation of criminals.
And this just makes me laugh when you consider Tom Delay, Bill Frist, Claude Allen, Brian J. Doyle and all the other Republican criminals.
Ah, yes, the trolls are going to be very angry and very desperate this week.
Posted by ann at April 6, 2006 10:11 AMnd you wonder why the average American hates Democrats?
Of course with new immigration policies the illegal immigrants that Democrats love so much will become the average American.
Democrats are turning the United States into a nation of criminals.
Posted by shoelimpy at April 6, 2006 09:58 AM
Boy, I thought thee GOP controlled congress and the White house and that Bush wanted Amniesty for the illegal immigrates! Bush is a crimminal (DUI,ETC)
Posted by goose1 at April 6, 2006 10:11 AMAnd you wonder why the average American hates Democrats?
You aint an average american limpdicky.
And you dont speak for them either.
Simple as that.
Posted by SnarkyShark at April 6, 2006 10:27 AMIt's so refreshing to see the GOP act as its own worst enemy for a change. The importiant thing to remembe is that conditions for working people in North America (all three countries) will not improve until NAFTA is improved.
Read this:
the most striking aspect of the assault on undocumented immigrants is that it has no theory of causality. Over 40 percent of the Mexicans who have come, legally and illegally, to the United States have done so in the past 15 years. The boom in undocumenteds is even more concentrated than that: There were just 2.5 million such immigrants in the United States in 1995; fully 8 million have arrived since then.
Why? It's not because we've let down our guard at the border; to the contrary, the border is more militarized now than it's ever been. The answer is actually simpler than that. In large part, it's NAFTA.
The North American Free Trade Agreement was sold, of course, as a boon to the citizens of the United States, Canada and Mexico -- guaranteed both to raise incomes and lower prices, however improbably, throughout the continent. Bipartisan elites promised that it would stanch the flow of illegal immigrants, too. "There will be less illegal immigration because more Mexicans will be able to support their children by staying home," said President Bill Clinton as he was building support for the measure in the spring of 1993.
But NAFTA, which took effect in 1994, could not have been more precisely crafted to increase immigration -- chiefly because of its devastating effect on Mexican agriculture. As liberal economist Jeff Faux points out in "The Global Class War," his just-published indictment of the actual workings of the new economy, Mexico had been home to a poor agrarian sector for generations, which the government helped sustain through price supports on corn and beans. NAFTA, though, put those farmers in direct competition with incomparably more efficient U.S. agribusinesses. It proved to be no contest: From 1993 through 2002, at least 2 million Mexican farmers were driven off their land.
These abuses and all of the ethnic tension resulting from the economic dislocation will not change until NAFTA is changed.
Posted by herbal tee at April 6, 2006 10:48 AMOpposition to illegal immigration has nothing to do with racism. It has to do with the facts, and the facts are immigration is bad for our country and our economy.
Illegal immigrants depress the wages of hardworking American citizens. Illegal immigrants are a drain on our already strained government resources. Illegal immigrants take money out of our economy to bolster the weak economies from their true countries.
Supporting illegal immigration does not support America.
Posted by shoelimpy at April 6, 2006 10:57 AMShoe, So why does Bush support it?
Posted by goose1 at April 6, 2006 11:03 AMSupporting illegal immigration does not support America.
Of course not. It supports Republican businesses who benefit from the cheap labor. Get it straight, limpy.
Posted by ann at April 6, 2006 11:04 AMAbout the picture, who can say for sure. Except to point out that both of them are looking like they realize they have stepped in something, and its sticking to the bottom of their shoes.
Posted by Hank at April 6, 2006 11:11 AMOpposition to illegal immigration has nothing to do with racism. It has to do with the facts, and the facts are immigration is bad for our country and our economy.
Illegal immigrants depress the wages of hardworking American citizens. Illegal immigrants are a drain on our already strained government resources. Illegal immigrants take money out of our economy to bolster the weak economies from their true countries.
Supporting illegal immigration does not support America.
Posted by shoelimpy at April 6, 2006 10:57 AM
*****
The corporatists who run the GOP are the ones exploiting the illegal immigration situation, you shiteating fuck.
Posted by God Of War at April 6, 2006 11:14 AMIt is the democrats who support illegal immigrants being granted amnesty. Republicans in the House and Senate do not.
President Bush is President Bush.
Posted by shoelimpy at April 6, 2006 11:32 AMIt is the democrats who support illegal immigrants being granted amnesty. Republicans in the House and Senate do not.
President Bush is President Bush.
Posted by shoelimpy at April 6, 2006 11:32 AM
*****
Amnesty?
You're a fucking liar too.
Posted by God Of War at April 6, 2006 11:34 AMshoelimpy, where in the McCain-Kennedy bill does it grant amnesty?
Posted by Steve Soto at April 6, 2006 11:36 AMShoe, The GOP controls congress.
"Senate leaders on Thursday announced a bipartisan compromise on an overhaul of U.S. immigration laws, giving some illegal immigrants a path to citizenship and creating a temporary worker program."
I take it you don't read much.
Posted by goose1 at April 6, 2006 11:38 AMPresident Bush is President Bush.
You know what they say.
If you can't say anything good....
Posted by snark at April 6, 2006 11:53 AMAmnesty has been the issue from the beginning.
Posted by shoelimpy at April 6, 2006 11:53 AMshoelimpy, I'm still waiting for you to show us where the McCain-Kennedy bill grants amnesty to anyone.
Posted by Steve Soto at April 6, 2006 12:08 PMHey limpy...
What about outsourcing? That reduces wages here as well. High-tech and manufacturing jobs go overseas, those workers need a job. More workers needing jobs mean lower wages. Gotta love those supply-side economics! Who wins, the corporations. Who do the corporations give their money to? Not the workers, but the politicians who made it possible to rake in the record profits.
Posted by the professor at April 6, 2006 12:11 PMShoe, you still can't read. "giving some illegal immigrants a path to citizenship" You guys run congress so who's for amnesty?
shoe, The GOP controls congress.
"Senate leaders on Thursday announced a bipartisan compromise on an overhaul of U.S. immigration laws, and creating a temporary worker program."
I take it you don't read much.
Posted by goose1 at April 6, 2006 12:16 PMAmnesty? At least do a little reading before you post somthing that stupid, limpy:
As described by Mr. Frist in television interviews, today the compromise would place illegal immigrants in three categories:
¶Those who have lived in the country at least five years would be put on a path toward guaranteed citizenship, provided that they remained employed, paid fines and back taxes, and learned English. Mr. Frist said said this group accounted for about 60 percent of the roughly 11 million illegal immigrants believed to be living here.
¶Those who have lived here for two to five years, said to number about three million, would have to leave the country briefly before reporting to an American port of entry, where they would be classified as temporary workers. They would be allowed to apply for citizenship but would have no guarantee of obtaining it. Those who did not would have to leave after participating in the temporary worker program for six years.
¶The remaining one million or so, those who have lived in the country less than two years, would be required to leave. They could apply for temporary worker status but would not be guaranteed it.
And last I checked, Frist is not a Democrat. And Congress isn't controlled by the Democrats. So what in the world is your problem?
Posted by ann at April 6, 2006 12:19 PMDon't waste your time on Shoelimpy. She is simply trolling for hits on her website. I clicked over, there's nothing worth reading there.
Posted by herbal tee at April 6, 2006 12:25 PMKeep firing, ShoeSticky!! Pretend you're one of that tiny, courageous band of Real Amuricans (OK, Texans) hopelessly surrounded at the Alamo!
You desperately keep fightin' and shootin' till you've spent your last cartridge, and thrown your last shoe----then, as the Mexican hordes under Santa Anna storm the battlements, you and your plucky band......OK, you take it from there!
Posted by euzoius at April 6, 2006 12:38 PMSince shoelimpy stated "the average American" already hated democrats. I wonder...does "the average American" hate democrats more than illegals or is that the same kind of hate?
Fucking repukes, hate merchants, all of them!!
Posted by bbtb at April 6, 2006 12:39 PMAw, be nice to the little troll. She's just pissed because while she was being a good housewife, her husband gave her the herpes he got from his mistress - you know, the one that actually likes sex for something other than procreation. He's allowed ol' shoelicker to get on the internet so she won't bug him about not coming home after work anymore.
Posted by iamcoyote at April 6, 2006 12:44 PMYou people are disgusting pigs.
Posted by shoelimpy at April 8, 2006 06:44 PM