Comments: Just How Did The Protests Affect You?
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Posted by scout at May 2, 2006 06:07 AM

I left work at 5:30pm and decided to walk the few blocks to the Virgin Megastore in Union Square to pick up a movie that my daughter wants not knowing that there was a rally taking place. There were thousands of people in Union Square. Tons of American flags mixed with flags of many nations. Mostly South and Central American in origin but also Caribbean and West Indian and I think a few of African nations. It was quite impressive. Completely peaceful, orderly. I had no problem moving through the crowd. People were smiling. Waving their flags. There was certainly a sense of community in the event. It was not an angry crowd at all. I was impressed. Unfortunately I never made it to the Virgin store as the crowd was flowing out of Union Square south on Broadway and the police had the intersection blocked off. Oh well. Next time.

Viva los Estados Unidos de América!

Posted by snark at May 2, 2006 06:07 AM
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Wht's nsl bt nt shwng p fr wrk? Th svvy mthcn cks p n xtr btch dmng nd hs hms mv t mrts.

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Posted by Bendito at May 2, 2006 06:22 AM

More racist drivel.

What a surprise.

Posted by snark at May 2, 2006 06:31 AM

Bendito's astute observation is proof that slime mold does too have feelings.

I purchased nothing yesterday. One of the few things I could do to show support and respect for people who take the lowest paying jobs and get crapped on regularly in Merca. Otherwise, beyond fewer waiters and busboys, nothing unusual.

I did notice the red state contingent standing around with their anti-immigrant signs. Nothing like a pack of meth-addicted uneducated backwoods country fuck white trash to really impress a person with an argument. It also shows that a GED is just as good as an education.

Posted by phidipides at May 2, 2006 06:33 AM

About May, 1st:

"The time has come for everyone to stand in solidarity and demand an end to the tyranny of the people by corporations and their billionaire beneficiaries. We are all being squeezed by their greed and everyday more and more families are slipping into poverty." - Man Eeggee, migra matters.

And to back how the poor will get screwed here is one example . And to show support for our Posted by bbtb at May 2, 2006 06:50 AM

Try again, Disabled Veterans getting screwed!

Posted by bbtb at May 2, 2006 06:53 AM
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snrk, bn's pnt s nt rcl, ftn nt srvvl, jst bsnss. ftn ths gys ps s dy lbr, wrk n rstrnts, nd ck llgl t nght. Whr d thy lrn th trd? t hm. Th drg trd s tsd f nrml crp cntrl. Th crps dds rp ff, sy th smll cff grwrs, xstng brly bv pvrty. s ths cff grwrs rs chldrn n pvrty, thy pnt t th Nrth mrcn ndn 'scrt wpn:' tbcc.

Thy mk drg mny; xct rvng n slfsh rch mrcns; nd th crp bys rp n ddtnl lyr f dcptn thrgh drgs nd ncntrlld llgls.

llgl ln chldrn, ftn S ctzns, ftn jn th strt gngstrs wth thr drg crp. Crsly, th thrd gnrtn r tght nt t ntr th drg trd, bt t g mnstrm, s gnrl rl.

B dvsd tht sprfcl prcptn s jst tht. ls, dn’t mnmz rcl bhvrs s ‘strtyps.’ ch grp hs cltrl chrctrstcs, whch r crp lrds wnt t rs f nly t dvtl nt thr scl cnstrctn strtgs t crt th scl cndtns mst mnbl t pwr, prft nd dmnnc.

Rmmbr, wtht n nsgn f trth, r vry thghts bcm sspct. Yr ntn f ‘rcl,’ t’s ndrlyng mnng s y s th trm, s prdct f crp thght mssg. rwlln ntrs hr n tht y blv tht yr thght s f ‘trth.’ Crry ths rsnng ln nd y’ll b fllwng th mny trl rght t th crp drstp. t tht pnt, y’ll qstn rlty, nd, nlss y rplc yr scl cnstrctn f ls wth th nsgn f th Bbl, y’ll rplc ths thght/dcptns wth thr ls. n dmn lvs, nd s rplcd by nthr. Tht s hll.

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Posted by scout at May 2, 2006 06:56 AM

To be honest, not at all.

I watched the coverage on TV news after returning home and read the blog reports and that's about it.

Posted by Christopher at May 2, 2006 06:56 AM

Sorry for the extra post folks, I'm having linking problems this morning.
It's just another issue of Congress violating a law in an attempt to do away with Disabled Veterans collecting SSDI.

Posted by bbtb at May 2, 2006 07:01 AM

Your notion of ‘racial,’ it’s underlying meaning as you use the term, is a product of corp thought massage. Orwellian enters here in that you believe that your thought is of ‘truth.’ Carry this reasoning line and you’ll be following the money trail right to the corp doorstep.

Take your bullshit and shove it up your ass scout.

He's a fucking racist bigot. If you want to believe that 13 million immigrants are all involved in nightime meth production go right ahead. But don't tell me about the 'truth'. You've expressed a belief that people in the past used to live to be 800 years old because it says so in the Bible.

Posted by snark at May 2, 2006 07:08 AM

unless you replace your social construction of lies with the ensign of the Bible,

Exactly my point! As my favorite bible verse explains:

Leviticus 11:12 - Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

There are so many people eating shrimp scampi and lobster rolls in the United States that God is super-duper pissed at us. Until we adopt more godly ways with the bible as our standard, and stop eating catfish and the clams at Howard Johnsons, I have a fear that Merca is doomed. Repent, you sinning bastards! Adopt the bible as your only guide and standard. Otherwise, god is going to do some bitch-slapping.

Posted by phidipides at May 2, 2006 07:20 AM
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Snrk, bn’s ‘bgt?’ nd ntlrnt? Wll, dn’t knw; bt lk t th htrd nd vlnc f yr rspns; nw tht s mst ntlrnt f rsnbl pnts. Why nt d sm ftwrk n nn Sqr nd tlk t cpl Brdr Ptrl gys? Thy wll qckly pnt t mny thngs, mng thm wll b tht nrly ll frst tm llgls crry drgs, thr fr thr wn sl, bt mst ftn fr L, l Ps, r tlnt drg lrd wth gng cnnctns. (Whl th Brdr Ptrl s n xcllnt tft, thy r ntntnlly pwrd dwn by r pwr lt.) rgnzd strt gngs, t th ppr nd f th hrrchy, s drgs fr fnncng prtns. Thy lrn frm ld-tm S gngstrs f th 20’s nd 30’s, nd r mdrn crprt gngstrs. Hwvr, th wknss f th strt gngs s tht thy tnd t kll ch thr ff, r sccmb t thr wn drg rsrcs nd bcm ddctd srs.

Pls nt tht Mxcn thrts hv rcntly lglzd hrn, mng thr pwrfl drgs. Hrn s th mst pwrfl ddctv gnt fr cntrl f ppl. sk Chn nd th K, s th K hd ddctd mny Chns n th prdct. ny f ths mkng sns? Th crp gys r nw bgnnng th nxt phs t cntrl S rhds: ncrsd drg sg, nd prbbly cntrng pn hrn. Smltnsly, sspct tht th crp mny bys r gng t ndc mny plcs dsgnd t ncrs th lvl f S pvrty.

cn g frthr n th bv, bt m nt sr f m gttng thrgh yr ngry mnd-st f slf prcvd psd-rghtsnss.

ls, ys, mn dd lv t pwrds f 900 yrs bfr th fld. D cpl srchs n lngvty; vn 'scnc' cn't fgr why w r ntrng th grv s fst. Frthr, mn ws wy smrtr n th pst. Dn't wht t hr tht?

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Posted by scout at May 2, 2006 07:37 AM

bbtb,

That's truly outrageous, but typical of the Bush junta.

They tried to close several VA Hospitals (a la Reagan) but, the PR was loud and immediate, so they decided to reverse course and target 6 VA clinics instead.

This administration makes me sick to my stomach.

Posted by Christopher at May 2, 2006 07:40 AM

Wow. Your commute was wonderful because no immigrants were on the road. How wonderful for Californians that the only good and respectful drivers are Caucasian. Just think, if you all were capable of doing manual labor, the world would be perfect.

Posted by metricpenny at May 2, 2006 07:52 AM

I can go farther in the above, but I am not sure if I am getting through your angry mind-set of self perceived pseudo-righteousness.

I'm the self-righteous one?

Let me reprint a bit of your sputum here;

Orwellian enters here in that you believe that your thought is of ‘truth.’

Introduce yourself to a mirror sometime.

Also, yes, man did live to upwards of 900 years before the flood. Do a couple searches on longevity; even 'science' can't figure why we are entering the grave so fast. Further, man was way smarter in the past. Don't what to hear that?

Perhaps I'll look into that guy who's using satellite pics to search for Noah's Ark on Mt. Ararat while I'm at it also.

You are almost comical.

Posted by snark at May 2, 2006 07:56 AM

scout, Bendito (I call him bendejo) has been posting here for a long time. He inserts his quick one line jabs at the left and leaves, while bothersome, he is indeed a troll and deserves to be treated as such. Some of his cruelest comments came during the Katrina debacle.

BTW scout, there are many more white trash backyard cookers out there than Mexican.

Posted by bbtb at May 2, 2006 08:06 AM
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bbtb, wr y n C ll ths tm? Vry gd t hr frm y; prhps mssd n f yr thrds. Bn ds wrt sm ntrstng stff, nd sspct tht h knws mr thn h lts n. m dsplyng tlrnc. hp th trp wnt smthly.

snrk, my mst hmbly pnt t tht y r hghly ntllgnt. Thnks fr bng thr.

mtrc, pss ws pntng t tht ppl drv bttr wth lck f trffc. Mr trffc=frntc rt bhvr. knw, tht's why drv mtr n SCl; rsky, bt drvrs lft y ln, f nly bcs th mtrs st fstr pc.

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Posted by scout at May 2, 2006 08:23 AM

bbtb, don't bother with scout, he's a lunatic. Clinically insane. If TLC had any compassion, he'd be banned. And it has nothing to do with the bible, because neither do scout's posts. He is a schizophrenic with a god-fixation who now has validation of his crazy ideas from the site he's also got a fixation on. And he is NOT a lefty.

So, pessimist. I've read this post several times, and it appears what you're saying is that the crazy drivers in LA are all immigrants? What the fuck is up with that? Every time I'm almost driven off the road, it's because of some blue-haired old lady in a Lincoln Navigator, or some whiteboy gangsta wannabe, basspounding, tiny dicked cracker. But I guess it's different in SoCal, huh? Bad form, pessimist.

Posted by iamcoyote at May 2, 2006 08:30 AM

coyote,

Much as it pains me to admit it my interpretation of pessimists post is the same as...ehm...scouts. Perhaps not worded clearly but the reduced traffic, in general, was the reason for easier driving conditions. Not that the immigrants are the bad drivers. Rather that the bad drivers had less reason to drive badly than they usually do.

Posted by snark at May 2, 2006 08:35 AM

Kind of you snark, but if you have to search for the real meaning under what looks like an insult, confusion reigns. But hey, appearances don't matter all that much, do they?

Oh well, I give up anyhow. Yet another thread has become the scout show, sadly. Seems TLC is overrun with trolls these days. Too bad, used to be a good place for conversation.

Posted by iamcoyote at May 2, 2006 08:58 AM

Kind of you snark, but if you have to search for the real meaning under what looks like an insult, confusion reigns.

Well bad writing at least. Not so sure about confusion.

Posted by snark at May 2, 2006 09:01 AM
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cyt, y'r bck! trst y'r flng bttr. B dvsd tht m rgstrd dmcrt nd tht d lv th Bbl, bt nt th wy r rgnzd chrchrs hv vlgrzd tr ndrstndng f th Bk. Lk t ths fls n th WH.

ls, snty, whn rltd t ndrstndng scl rlts, s lwys clld nt fcs by ppstn. Ths, th Grmns drng WW r pntd ‘bby kllrs;’ th Sth, drng th Cvl Wr, ll bcm ‘slvrs,’ tc. Chrctr ssssntn s th lst tl f dfns, nc fcts bcm fw r nprcvd.

Lk t wht y wrt: nd y cnsdr yrslf bttr thn ths ‘bgts’ t thr? Lk t ths nms; lk gn t th ndrlyng vlnc f yr slnt trms f dngrtn. s ths nt wht lttl Bsh dd t Sddm? Rmmbr Sdr? H ws bg bd prss by ntl w fgrd tht w bttr nt pt ny prssr pn hm, (rcll tht w wr rnnng rnd wth wrrnt jst s th md ws pntng hm bg nsty; rmmbr whn r mprl dts wr rnnng rnd bggng shml hds? nd wndr why thy stdd hw t blw p tnks). My pnt s tht th nc dmggc Sdr hs bn rpntd by r md wth ffrdd lgtmcy. f crs, th C hs hm n thr ht lst.

nyhw, why nt mk yr pnts wth rstrnt? spps t’s stll K t b bb wth hrns, jst plc vrbl prtctrs n th hrn tps. Y nvr knw, Jhvh my b mrcfl nd grnt y tr knwldg. f crs, whtvr H ds, t hs nthng t d wth yr bhvr, r nyn ls's.

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Posted by scout at May 2, 2006 09:03 AM

Also, yes, man did live to upwards of 900 years before the flood. Do a couple searches on longevity; even 'science' can't figure why we are entering the grave so fast. Further, man was way smarter in the past. Don't what to hear that?

Posted by scout at May 2, 2006 07:37 AM

Got any factual proof of this bold assertation, scout? Please bear in mind that because the bible says so is not proof of anything, nor is it "knowledge". Also, yes, there are a legion of pagan myths which are similar to the Jeebus fable. That were around at the same time as the Jeebus fable, and were incorporated into it, when it was first being propagandized. Don't what to hear that? Or just too brainwashed to listen?

As for yesterday, it was absolutely wonderful to leave the car in the garage for a day, and not go anywhere, buy anything, and do nothing but watch Stephen Colbert rip the PretzelDunce a new one, while ostensibly declaring his undying fealty for the New God of Some Religiously Insane Americans.

Posted by (: Tom :) at May 2, 2006 09:07 AM

Schizophrenic, like I said.

Posted by iamcoyote at May 2, 2006 09:10 AM
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tm, hr's rltd st lkng nt yr qstn: < hrf="http://nws.bbc.c.k/1/h/k/4003063.stm" rl="nfllw" trgt="_blnk">

Whn ws dng nrcssstc rsrch 15 yrs g, rd thrgh svrl vrsns f th Bbl, nly bcs ntcd vrs trnsltns dpndd pn th trnsltr's vrll ndrstndng; nd ths chngs dpndng pn th trnsltrs’ pch bcs Jhvh rvls knwldg t ppntd tm ntrvls, ( ddn’t dscvr ntrlnr trnsltns bsd pn rgnl Hbrw nd Grk ntl 1997, r s). nywy, prr t nvstgtng th Bbl, srsly nvstgtd Hndsm, Bddhsm, Cnfcnsm, T, nd whl lt f nthrplgcl gthrd pgn jnk. Nt n f th bv cmprs t th Bbl. Th rlty f ths trth ddn’t strk m ntl ftr gng thrgh, systmtclly, svrl Bbl trnsltns, bgnnng nd ndng wth th Kng Jms. t ws n th lst pss thrgh Kng Jms tht t fnlly ccrrd t m tht th Bbl ws fr mr thn fw ld gys wrtng wrds, t bsclly cm lv.

Ths rlty chck frcd m t trg ll pst sclgcl, psychlgcl, nthrplgcl, vn mthmtcl lnggs (tht cld rmmbr) nt th Bblcl prdgm f trth. B dvsd tht my ndrstndng f th trth f th Bbl dd nt cm frm ny prtclr dlgnc f stdy n my prt; t ws jst th wy Jhvh wrkd wth my prtclr cs. n sns, tr Chrstnty s frm f mystcsm t ths tsd f ndrstndng th Bbl. Ths s hw s mny Bbl psrs cm p wth 500 ntrprttns f th Bbl: fr th psr ‘pstrs,’ vw th Bbl s prfssn, jb, wy f sphnng wlth ff f nsvd chrchrs wh thmslvs r vrwhlmd wth Bblcl lngg. sspct tht mst f ths pstrs tch tht th Bbl s Bk f myths. Lk t th WH, ths s-clld ‘Chrstns’ dvct trtr nd crsds f dth ndr vrs cvr strtgs.

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Posted by scout at May 2, 2006 10:12 AM
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Tm, try ths:

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Posted by scout at May 2, 2006 10:14 AM
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Phd, th Bbl, spclly th ld Tstmnt, s rplt wth crmnl lws dpctng Bblcl prncpls. slly th crmnl lws wr cncrt xprssns f vrs spcts f th slvtn prgrm. Yr bv vrs, f rcll, s shwng sprtn btwn th svd nd nsvd, (‘svd’ mns t vd th scnd dth f th ftr).

Wht ls d y hv? f y d srch, y’ll fnd cpl thst sts wth pstd lst f Bblcl ‘cntrdctns.’ Ndlss t sy, th thst st hsts tht ’v vstd vw m wth bslt srprs whn nrvl thr fls rgmnts.

Ths, bth th thsts, wh r rlly f th rlgn f sclr hmnsts, r sclr Jdsm, nd th Blshvk sts hv hrd tm llwng m smpl frdm f xprssn. Thy dn’t wnt nswrs, f nly bcs thy prtnd t ndrstnd thr vrsn f vl. Wht ls s nw?

Cyt, pls lt m knw whn t’s K t pst n yr st. Wh knws, my b y’ll fnd sft spt n yr stny hrt.

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Posted by scout at May 2, 2006 10:26 AM

You will be deleted the moment you come near my site, and I think you should know that I have guns in my home and my family knows how to use them. You need help. You are not well, you are creepy as shit, and you are making the bible seem even creepier than it was before, if you care at all, which I doubt.

Posted by iamcoyote at May 2, 2006 10:30 AM

tom, here's a related site looking into your question:

The article you linked to has nothing to do with ancient humans living to be 1000 years old. It is about current research into the potential to use modern technologies to prevent aging. There is not a shread of evidence that anyone in the past lived to be 800 to 900 years old.

Be advised that my understanding of the truth of the Bible did not come from any particular diligence of study on my part; it was just the way Jehovah worked with my particular case. In a sense, true Christianity is a form of mysticism to those outside of understanding the Bible.

And here we get to the crux of situation folks. As far as scout is concerned he is the enlightened one and those who are not enlightened can not see the wisdom of his understanding. Can't. Never will. Of course the most convenient aspect of that little arrangement is that it provides scout with cover to not have to provide any back-up to his pronouncements. And when he does try to respond to his assertion about ancient humans living to be 800 years old, as described in the Bible, he provides a link to a scientist making unsubstantiated claims that modern science is on the verge of the technological breakthroughs that will allow humans to prevent aging. There's no there there folks.

And I will now be dismissed with an accusation of self perceived pseudo-righteousness by his righteousness-in-chief himself.

And it will go on and on and on.....

Posted by snark at May 2, 2006 10:52 AM

snark, all you're gonna get from scout is, "It puts the lotion on its skin!!!!"

And yes, I know to drag the body of an intruder inside after he dies, so I'm not accused of murder. It'll be hard to explain the 5 samarai swords in his chest, but I'll just say I was scared.

Posted by iamcoyote at May 2, 2006 11:08 AM
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Snrk, wld nvr dsmss yr vld pnts, s ths wld b mst dsrspctfl. tld Tm tht t ws rltd st lkng nt hs qstn. jst tk cpl scnds t d ggl, nd t ws t th tp f th lst. Crtnly y s th cnnctn t t lst th pssblty tht scnc my rvrs th dss prcss tht pprs t cs gng nd dth. wsn’t tryng t b trcky. hp tht hv t lst lttl ntgrty.

Yr trm, ‘nlghtnmnt,’ s prbbly ccrt, bt nt s dfnd by th nlghtnd Bddhst. Th tr Chrstn s nlghtnd t hs nnt dprvty nd vl ntr. H ss thrgh th typcl hypcrsy tht th ccltrtd f vl prcvs hmslf s th plr ppst f vl, sch s ‘gd,’ r ‘gdly, wrthy‘ tc. r nly chc, wtht tr Bblcl knwldg, s th chc btwn vls.

Pls lk t hstry. Whr d w fnd ‘gd’ n th wrld? D y nt s th sm cycl f vlnc nd smmrng htrd? Nw, d y s mr vlnc nd htrd s w bcm ‘nlghtnly prgrssv,’ s w pprch th prsnt. N, w nt th ppst. Wrs nd htrd nglf ntr cltrs nd kll ff mr thn ny n f s hv nrgy t cnt.

Lk t th blgsphr; t cld b rgd tht t’s th lst bstn f dmcrtc xchng f ds. nd, w nt htrd nd vlnc wthn th smll grp-blg, vn whl smltnsly cstgtng th dntcl plcs f htrd nd vlnc dsplyd by r ‘ldrs.’ D y s? W pnt r fngr t th vl f thrs, whl gnrng r mrrr mg f vl. Th nd rslt n th scl cnstrctn f cnfsn, bsd pn r vl ntr. nd ths cnfsn mks fr dl rlng cndtns by r crp lt. Thy sw 10,000 ds f dstrctn, crtng 1,000 lgns wth thr dmn hrns, ll wrrng ntrnlly nd btwn grps, nd ths cllctvly wrrng wth th tsd th pltcl bndry grps. Mnwhl, r pwr lt, dctt plcs nd slp nw hrs bt n th cllctv mth f th wrld whn ncssry Th nly thng fr crtn s tht vryn s cnfsd.

xcpt n smll grp: ths tht s th Bbl s nsgn. vn wtht ’nlghtnmnt,’ Bblcl stndrds fllwd xctly wll prdc scl bnfts nd wrld pc. Bt, t n’t gng t hppn, bcs w r blnd t th trth f th Bbl nlss Jhvh pns th ys f th prcvr. nd H’s lrdy sd tht H wll nly pn th ys f ths tht h wnts. Fnlly, t’s Gd’s prgrm. dn’t hv ngh brns t drm p frctn f th trth.


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Posted by scout at May 2, 2006 11:30 AM

amen, snark. Encinopide: That Leviticus no scales or fins being an abomination thingy was the Invisible Father's way of telling us that dining on submerged gangsters wearing cement shoes will give us indigestion.

Oh , I forgot what the original thread was about because of the monumental pile of crap posted by the "delusional thread killer" with the padded laptop.(hatip for the coyote quote)

Posted by TIKI AL at May 2, 2006 11:35 AM

scout, what part of fuck off don't you understand?

Posted by headxray at May 2, 2006 12:09 PM

I wasn’t trying to be tricky.

No, of course not. Just as you said, 'taking what was at the top if the list'. In essense your response to Tom meant nothing to you and it did not address his query so why bother except to express contempt for his questioning of you.

Where do we find ‘good’ in the world? Do you not see the same cycle of violence and simmering hatred? Now, do you see more violence and hatred as we become ‘enlightenly progressive,’ as we approach the present. No, we note the opposite. Wars and hatred engulf entire cultures and kill off more than any one of us have energy to count.

You say "No, we note the opposite" in answer to your own question as to whether "you see more violence and hatred...as we approach the present". Then you continue to talk about continued violence? You contradict yourself!

And, we note hatred and violence within the small group-blog, even while simultaneously castigating the identical policies of hatred and violence displayed by our ‘leaders.’ Do you see? We point our finger at the evil of others, while ignoring our mirror image of evil. The end result in the social construction of confusion, based upon our evil nature.

Additionally, the end result is a construct in which you can claim the mantle of being above it all as a result of your enlightenment. How convenient for you!

As you so graciously illustrate here;

Except one small group: those that use the Bible as ensign. Even without ’enlightenment,’ Biblical standards followed exactly will produce social benefits and world peace. But, (There's always a but!) it ain’t going to happen, because we are blind to the truth of the Bible unless Jehovah opens the eyes of the perceiver. And He’s already said that He will only open the eyes of those that he wants.(You, for instance.) Finally, it’s God’s program. I don’t have enough brains to dream up a fraction of the truth. (The ultimate asterisk!)

Posted by snark at May 2, 2006 12:15 PM

Speaking from Georgia, I agred that the immigrants need to march more often. The majority of prisoners in jail in Georgia for traffic offenses are immigrants who never bothered to get a license before they took to the roads. As long as they are marching, they can't be driving!

Posted by popdaddy at May 2, 2006 12:20 PM

Interesting post, pess--offensive, yet refreshingly willing to buck the conventional bigotry about what makes Mexicans bad drivers.

Posted by dj moonbat at May 2, 2006 12:21 PM

Here is the analogy that I derive from the whole thing: Your old friend is down on his luck, so you let him stay with you for a couple of weeks so he can get "back on his feet". Then as soon as he gets a job, he figures that since he helped with the bills that he now lives there, and why should he thank you? My Grandfather immigrated to America legally. What makes all of these people think that they deserve instant citzenship? From what I understand Mexico pays very low wages, now they are in America making more than they ever dreamed, illegally, and complaining. What a joke, If America is so cruel then go back to Mexico, If you want to be a Citizen then apply and go through the system. Americans did not screw up Mexico, Mexicans did. Its a tough world, I wish I could just march and protest every time things didn't go my way.

Posted by Shaggy at May 2, 2006 12:50 PM

What makes all of these people think that they deserve instant citzenship?

Are they all demanding instant citizenship?

From what I understand Mexico pays very low wages, now they are in America making more than they ever dreamed, illegally, and complaining.

They're only complaining because people like you want to kick them out.

What a joke, If America is so cruel then go back to Mexico,...

Again, who's saying America is so cruel?

If you want to be a Citizen then apply and go through the system.

A valid point. There are those seeking to establish a mechanism by which those already here can begin that process. Not all seek to become citizens though. Is it unacceptable to you that some people wish to come here, earn a living and eventually return to their homelands? We do have many visitors who come here on work Visas who do just that.

Americans did not screw up Mexico, Mexicans did.

Good thing we don't go around blaming others for our problems, eh?

Its a tough world, I wish I could just march and protest every time things didn't go my way.

But you can.

Posted by snark at May 2, 2006 01:04 PM

We cross mountains, deserts and...yes, borders to provide for our families - wouldn't you?

Posted by bbtb at May 2, 2006 02:25 PM
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Posted by scout at May 2, 2006 02:37 PM

Your above verse, if I recall, is showing a separation between the saved and unsaved,

Nah. It's about a bunch of uneducated gits wandering about in a small tribe in an area where the shellfish was tainted and they would die if they ate it. You know, the pork and trichinosis thang.

Not to worry, most of Leviticus is misinterpreted. But me thinks you just outed yourself as a christain reconstructionist. Just another flavor of dominionism.

Posted by phidipides at May 2, 2006 08:07 PM

California is a part of the United States of America, and is in no way connected to Mexico.
There is a border between the two, and it is meant to be crossed in a legal manner.
If a person enters the United States with no legal right, then that person is committing a crime.
Those who are committing these crimes, are the very people that California is putting up with.
Better known as illegal aliens, they are the people who are making you wait for long periods of time in hospitals because they over-crowd waiting rooms with no means in which to pay for health care.
They have no legal rights to work, housing, education, and welfare, and yet we give them part, most, or all of those things at your expense.
Illegal means to break the law.
These people are breaking the law by even being in California!
Why are we paying their way?
There is increasing crime in our schools, on the streets, and even on our properties because of illegal aliens who come here with little or no money, and who do not care.
We now have teachers who speak the many languages of these illegal aliens because they do not speak english.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
This is America!
We speak english!!
If they can't speak our language, then what are they doing here?
Every time they cross the street they break the law because they are illegals, and that means against the law!
An elderly American woman was given a ticket in Los Angeles because she could not make it from one side of the street to the other on time, due to her age.
Yet we allow every illegal to cross every street.
This is insane.
Where are our leaders?
Why are our borders open while we are at war?
Why are we putting up with this?
While I write this, I must point out that many of my friends over the years have come from other countries.
They are the Latinos and others who came here under legal means.
They are hard working, good, honest people who are proud to call America their home.
I am just as proud to call them my friends!
They are angry at those who come here expecting a free pass.
This should not be happening.
We want answers from Sacramento, Washington, and our town and city leaders.
This is an election year, and if we do not get answers from those in office about the questions of why there are illegals here, and why are we paying their way, then we will take it upon ourselves to clean things up, by sweeping those in office, out of office, and replace them with people who put the interests of California first!
I am,
George Vreeland Hill

Posted by George Vreeland Hill at May 2, 2006 08:18 PM

Easy traffic and Tuesday night at Silver Lake Trader Joes proved fruitless -- a lot of regular food items were not there. I imagine this was a direct result of the rally/boycott!

Posted by miles at May 2, 2006 09:36 PM

Tuesday night at Silver Lake Trader Joes proved fruitless -- a lot of regular food items were not there.

Hopefully, you just took the opportunity to hit Hard Times Pizza.

Posted by dj moonbat at May 2, 2006 10:16 PM

Hey, scout - thanks for not answering my questions with anything but your religiously insane nonsense. Just like all the rest of the Jeebofascists I have the misfortune to be forced to deal with every day.

You answered my question (which specifically states that because the bible says so is not a valid argument - I would like something from the reality-based community) by trying to say that you believe the bible is truth. Kinda like the opposite of debating your point, don't you think?

You also pointed to exactly zero examples of proof of your assertation that some humans had lifespans in excess of 800 years. Your fairy tales are nice (some of them, at least) but no more connected to reality than works from the brothers grimm and hans christian andersen. Should I beieve in mermaids, giants, magic beans, and witches who live in the woods in gingerbread houses?

Try and come back sometime when your pagan occult superstitions aren't clouding your ability to make reasoned arguments.

As for atheiesm (or agnosticism) being religions: when was the last time you saw a bunch of atheists or agnostics going door to door trying to convert others to their beliefs? When was the last time you were assaulted by the God Squad demanding that you accept their fairy tales as truth? I can tell you that I have never seen the former, but the latter is a regular occurrence in almost every neighborhood I have ever lived in.

Posted by (: Tom :) at May 3, 2006 06:33 AM
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