Iraq's not a winning issue? Geez - you shoulda told Hastert that before he planned his emergency PR trip over there. From the special-rights-for- Congressmen frying pan into the fire.
In the meantime, the right-wing blogosphere seems to be handing Hastert something of an ultimatum regarding the Senate's immigration bill - either he live up to his "promise" of making felons out of everyone here illegally (and the nuns that helped 'em) or they're through with him. Not so happy with his protestations of special rights for Congressmen. Unfortunately his district is now 25% Hispanic, and they're registering voters.
Poor Denny just can't catch a break these days. His opponent John Laesch is doing well, though, I hear.
Posted by raisin at June 5, 2006 03:05 AM"Can o' Monday." I like that! Mind if I steal it from time to time?
So, GGG (God, Guns and Gays) will be the battle cry of the religious right going into the '06 election. Is George's base so stupid that they will buy it again? Seriously, these people must have an IQ of 70.
Posted by Judith at June 5, 2006 05:24 AMAll this talk about a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. All these states with initiatives on the ballot banning gay marriage. Is there any reason for democrats not to turn this around the other way? Why not put a law to a vote that says marriage is legal between two adults consenting, unrelated persons regardless of gender. Why don't we do that?
Posted by CG at June 5, 2006 05:42 AMI'd vote for a Constitutional amendment banning divorce.
Whaddaya think?
Posted by snark at June 5, 2006 05:44 AMSnark, I have two words: domestic violence. But I know you were being snarky, so I'll forgive you.
Posted by iamcoyote at June 5, 2006 06:00 AMI have two words: domestic violence.
No need to threaten me coyote! ;)
Seriously though, no need to reject a divorce amendment because of dv. That's what we have courts for. Even the Catholic Church recognizes that sometimes an marriage needs to be ended.
Posted by snark at June 5, 2006 06:08 AMI'd vote for a Constitutional amendment banning divorce.
That's called, "I got your Defense of Marriage Amendment *right here*". heh.
It's just those zealots know that they can't get the public to go along with a ban on divorce, much less raising the hurdles to getting one. That's about the only reason I was willing to let the states pass those silly 'covenant marriage' or 'marriage +' statutes, just as long as they left the rest of us out of it.
Posted by idiosynchronic at June 5, 2006 06:25 AMIsn't that the point though? If I were a Senator I'd put such an amendment forward in a heartbeat. Call a spade a spade. If you're gonna talk about 'defending marriage' than defend marriage God damn it! Let the fucking hypocrites dash their own brains against the rocks trying explain how expanding the marriage franchise to encompass gays/lesbians is imperiling marriage more than the fact that you can go to your local We The People document center and get a divorce for $99.
Posted by snark at June 5, 2006 06:36 AMIn the 30 years that I have been with my PF(perpetual fiancee), the subject of divorce has never come up.
And the marriage penalty tax savings could have paid for a Trump caliber wedding, but instead we punished our egos and bought a house.
Gay marriage? Strait marriage? No marriage? God? No God? Who cares? Do whatever makes you happy, without hurting others. It's that simple.
Posted by TIKI AL at June 5, 2006 07:00 AMDo whatever makes you happy, without hurting others.
Ahhhhhh! So naive. You do realize that gay love hurts the children don't you?
Posted by snark at June 5, 2006 07:05 AMLove is a dangerous commodity and should be controlled only by the government.
Do you like children? "Only if they're properly cooked." - William Claude Duckenfield
Posted by TIKI AL at June 5, 2006 07:16 AMLOL!
Honestly, I believe the best way to deal with this issue is to point out the absurdity of it all. Here we are with massive deficits, millions of medically uninsured citizens, a war raging in a foreign land and what is the president and the Republican congress most worried about? Preventing two men or two women from formalizing their relationship with one another.
Here's an idea! Why not just declare gays to be 3/5th of a person in that amendment? At least that has some constitutional precedent.
Posted by snark at June 5, 2006 07:22 AMIf the ammendement prevented gay men only from marriage, it might pass. There's just something about seeing 2 women together that these mostly manly lawmakers like.
Posted by TIKI AL at June 5, 2006 07:46 AMTIKI, you're damn right. IMO, it gives them the opportunity to talk about it, over and over, faster and faster until sweet, sweet, release of the gay amendment. It's even more delicious knowing it'll never pass, so they do it every couple of months to "stroke" the base.
Posted by iamcoyote at June 5, 2006 07:50 AM"stroke the base"....nice "touch", coyote!
Let's all remember the British headline after pretzelCHOKEchimp's reTHEFTection: "How can 59 million people be so stupid?"
HOW INDEED?? Have they been cured? Maybe thru stemcells.
Posted by TIKI AL at June 5, 2006 08:07 AMSnark, I have two words: domestic violence. But I know you were being snarky, so I'll forgive you.
If the radical right were to keep power for long enough, they would ban divorce.
And "Joe Sixpack" is going to find that they really do want to take his sixpack away.
Posted by herbal tee at June 5, 2006 09:36 AMHere's something that may create a "monday" mood for a decade. : (
Posted by herbal tee at June 5, 2006 10:07 AMLet's all take 5-7 minutes and take this survey so that we can get the numbers accurate.
Posted by Anjha at June 5, 2006 11:43 AMhave two words: domestic violence.
The only reason domestic violence exists is because the other person JUST WON'T LISTEN! GOD DAMN IT, ANYWAY!
Posted by phidipides at June 5, 2006 12:29 PMThe only reason domestic violence exists is because the other person JUST WON'T LISTEN! GOD DAMN IT, ANYWAY!
I wish that was funny. The edge between laughter and anguish is so damn thin.
It quits being funny when your partner takes out a knife and can't decide to use it on herself or on you.
Posted by idiosynchronic at June 5, 2006 01:50 PMherbal tee may have hit on something. If the right wing gets any more power they may try to bring back prohibition. Maybe this gay marriage assault on the constitution is a test for the return of prohibition.
Shout it from the rooftops: The right wing wants to take Joe's 6 pack away! Politicians did it once before. Are you going to let them do this to you, Joe?
Vote dem, and keep your God given right to drink beer!
Posted by TIKI AL at June 5, 2006 02:18 PMDo you like children? "Only if they're properly cooked." - William Claude Duckenfield
TIKI, What is W.C. Fields?
Posted by Seven of Six at June 5, 2006 02:35 PMOops, who is?
Posted by Seven of Six at June 5, 2006 03:07 PM7: "3 somersalts and a splat" - WC Fields
Posted by TIKI AL at June 6, 2006 10:10 AM