I see she quickly announced her support for Lamont. On the other hand, Maxine Watters worked her fingers and her awesome brain to the max to support Lamont and this morning she'll come out of this with a whole lot of political capital.
Posted by mainsailset at August 9, 2006 08:14 AMWhat Boxer should do now is issue a public statement imploring her good pal Joe-nomentum to get the hell out of the race. Just call it a day, pack your bags and say adios. But, she won't. Nor will he.
Posted by Christopher at August 9, 2006 08:21 AMNice statements of support.
Let's she what she (and the other Dems) actually DO to support Lamont and oppose Joe(I).
Posted by euzoius at August 9, 2006 08:39 AMIt's infuriating when the democratic voters start to think for themselves. Hope the party mucky-mucks will read the writing on the wall and not try to continue as Repub-Lite Party.
I think Joe's quick filing shows this is about Joe's ego and his need to be in DC, to heck with the folks back home.
Posted by Angel at August 9, 2006 08:43 AMHillary Clinton's HillPAC made good on her promise this morning to support the Democratic primary winner and sent Ned Lamont $5,000.
Posted by Christopher at August 9, 2006 09:05 AMJoe realizes that voters are abandining the Democrat party because of the left wing extremism. Forty-five percent of Connecticut voters are Independent. They are the majority party. You denounce low voter turnout. But that is because the extremists have not voted for compelling candidates who appeal to the majority..
Posted by at August 9, 2006 09:08 AMAnon:
Bush is as popular with independents as he is with Democrats. Running an ad with Lieberman morphing into Bush will not help Lieberman with independents. The only people that apparently like Lieberman are Republicans like yourself.
Joe realizes that voters are abandining the Democrat party because of the left wing extremism.
Oh, that's a funny one. Then why, oh why, would Lieberman run as a Democratic candidate?
Posted by ann at August 9, 2006 09:12 AMAnon, I notice you didn't mention the GOP incubent in Michigan that got beat in his primary. Must be those rightwing extremist (the mainstreem) of the GOP
Posted by goose1 at August 9, 2006 09:23 AMBut that is because the extremists have not voted for compelling candidates who appeal to the majority..
Are you talking about the neo-cons and republi-cons who voted for the Mad King, idiot son of George? Extremists who voted for an unappealing incompetent?
Joe realizes that voters are abandining the Democrat party because of the left wing extremism.
This abandoned party is likely to have your chimporer up for impeachment in 2007, his supporters hung in the town squares in 08, and W-09 will be conducted in the Hague.
Posted by phidipides at August 9, 2006 09:29 AMJoe has his INDY bid in already. Must be a fast worker (or saw the writing on the wall) any rate He has already filed his petition to be placed on the ballot for an independent – so by losing by four points the night before – I guess he figures he will gather enough support from the “right” to remain the “Big Dog” Senator from Connecticut.
Question for the group – if a Senator abandoned his party because he could not retain support of said party in the primaries – what makes the Senator feel he could emerge the majority winner in a three party race?
Also notice his campaign managed to generate 18 thousand signatures over-night … at least the media is portraying it as over-night … So does he have a real chance of winning?
Good thing fdl and jane say it - right, they screwed up all of their 24/7 fitzmas coverage, didn't get anywhere lecturing kansas with their arrogant promos there earlier this year, haven't really added anything to the CT race, but the circle-jerks of links is determined to parade this psuedo-intellectual pundit around as the "expert" of something.
Keep linking, maybe you will eventually find something that fdl is actually competent to comment on, but I doubt it.
Posted by at August 9, 2006 09:42 AMAnon above. You go ahead and just keep spinning in that tight little circle of nastiness you seem to comfortable wrapping around yourself, someday you may notice, when you get dizzy enough, that it's not taking you anywhere.
Posted by mainsailset at August 9, 2006 09:56 AMJoe showed the same "It's all about me" reality that DeLay did earlier. Can't stay on the gravy train, so they get all the way off. To me, LIEberman's entire demeanor reeked of "I'm a Senator, buzz off". Now he's buzzing.
Posted by T2 at August 9, 2006 10:01 AMGotta problem with FDL, take it up with them? Wanna broadcast your sour grapes? Annoy the rest of the blogs with unsigned comments. So you got banned, anon. It appears you probably deserve it.
Posted by iamcoyote at August 9, 2006 10:05 AM"Joe realizes that voters are abandining the Democrat party because of the left wing extremism."
Oh really, is that why Lamont won f*cker? So sorry your man didn't win.
Posted by Judith at August 9, 2006 10:06 AMWhat amazes me about this malarky about left wing extremism talk is the denial that this wasn't left wing extremists voting yesterday in CT, NO, IT WAS THE MODERATES. Ding dong, wake up cause once everyone realizes that, Katie bar the door. The keyboards faciliated the movement that was already coming down the pike.
Posted by mainsailset at August 9, 2006 10:30 AMClinton I can see helping Loser Joe, but never Boxer. Man that one hurt, still hurts.
Joe better not run. Has there been confirmation from him today that he's running independently?
Posted by paradox at August 9, 2006 10:48 AM[sigh] He filed this morning. I'm away from home and have to hike to get a connection, I've just logged in since yesterday.
Posted by paradox at August 9, 2006 10:53 AMNo way either Clinton continues to support Lieberman.
And he needs to be removed from his committee seats. It's the only thing he has left to offer Connecticut voters as a reason to vote for him.
Posted by snark at August 9, 2006 10:59 AMits funny that we speak of democracy, and it won. the voters spoke and voted joe out. so why is this a referendum on ct voters? what did joe have to offer ct and what did lamont have to offer. apparently the voters felt lamont was their guy. so tell me, if joe runs as an independent, with repub backing, where does his credentials go as a dem?
the kiss gets more play, as well as the bush lieberman morph. so how does he run from this one. i say he dodges the independent ticket and shows his true colors by running as the repub. what say you?
Posted by anthony at August 9, 2006 11:06 AMParadox Murray Waas has a quick post this morning with the prediction/bet that Bill himself will be making a call to Joe. Actually, come to think of it, Bill's support of Joe despite Joe's dirty tricks against Clinton, puts Bill in a pretty good position to get Joe to stand down. Just the $'s alone to fight both DNC & RNC candidates would be daunting, ahhh but that's the burden of a spoiler.
Posted by mainsailset at August 9, 2006 11:09 AMJust the $'s alone to fight both DNC & RNC candidates would be daunting
Rove wouldn't hesitate a moment to sell the Republican candidate short if he thinks he can get Lieberman back in the Senate as an Independent instead of Lamont. According to the AP he's already called Lieberman to offer the administrations support. The Republican doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of getting elected, even in a three way race anyway. Having the active support of Bushco. should be a major turn off for a lot of Dems thinking about continuing to support Lieberman.
Posted by snark at August 9, 2006 11:15 AMI blogged about this earlier:
KARL ROVE OFFERS WH HELP ON INDEPENDENT RUN
http://abcnews.blogs.com/theworldnewser/
Holy Joe knows who his friends are.
Posted by Christopher at August 9, 2006 11:22 AM"Having the active support of Bushco. should be a major turn off for a lot of Dems thinking about continuing to support Lieberman.
"Snark, only if they know about it."
Republican help will do only one thing, PROVE BEYOND A SHADOW OF DOUBT to every Democrat, that Lieberman is their guy in the WH/GOP. I agree with Anthony, what keeps him from running as a Republican by switching parties?
Posted by Judith at August 9, 2006 12:01 PMThis is why elected Democratic officeholders in the new deal era and later remained uncommitted in primaries they weren't personally involved in.
An Al Smith, Harry Truman or FDR would not have exposed themselves to the embarrassment of backing a loser in the primary.
There's plenty of time to campaign for the primary winner against the Republican in the general election and so gain IOU's for your own political career. Getting involved in someone else's primary is usually a net negitive. Our party's leaders knew this during the party's heyday. If the current officeholding Democrats really want to build a long term majority party, it's time to start using stratiges that have proven to work.
Posted by herbal tee at August 9, 2006 12:24 PMDoes anybody know what Lamont's basic platform is? You know, besides being against war and Bush and stuff?
Posted by Toby Petzold at August 9, 2006 01:06 PMToby,
I suppose you're used to having your hand held but I think you should try to find your way to Lamonts website all on your own?
Posted by snark at August 9, 2006 01:13 PMI hope Lamont wins in the general election, but, really, I'm just happy the mask has been pulled off Joe-mentum's face.
He is not and has not been a Democrat for years. Even during his VeeP run, he was a stand-in for Republican Lites everywhere.
The only reason Joe was on that presidential ticket was because he back-stabbed Clinton and that provided cover to Gore over people claiming he was too close to Clinton. Unfortunately for Gore, he didn't realize how far over to The Dark Side Joe had gone, that Joe would repeatedly refuse to carrry Gore's water like a VeeP candidate is expected to do and even help cost Gore the election. Ever since then, I've thought Joe sucks.
Recent crud with Iraq and kissing Bush is just more reason to despise him and more evidence that he hasn't been a Dem for years. He's practically a Republican saboteur within the Democratic Party.
That's why I'm happy he lost last night. Unless he withdraws his application to run as an independent, he is no longer given a seat at the Democratic table. And we're much better off without him in it.
This election, for me at least, was as much about purging the party of Joe-mentum as it is about getting Lamont elected. But now that the purge is a done deal, it's time to get Lamont elected. Go, Lamont!
Posted by Brian Bell at August 9, 2006 01:25 PMWhat, Tubbo, no one biting on your manufactured netroots controversy? Yer so lame.
Posted by iamcoyote at August 9, 2006 01:35 PMI suppose you're used to having your hand held but I think you should try to find your way to Lamonts website all on your own?
Really, Toby, are you afraid of what the NSA will tell the GOP about your google searches if you look up Ned Lamont?
Posted by ann at August 9, 2006 01:40 PM"I wonder how Barbara Boxer feels this morning, watching Joe piss all over the left wing of the party as a bunch of partisan, anti-democracy crazies in his nonconcession speech?"
Well, I am sure that she is not comfortable with the fact that Joe is letting the wider-world in on the truth.
Oh, and Joe will win in November.
Posted by Bagley at August 9, 2006 05:43 PMHow again is a party's primary election "anti-democracy", bagley?
That's "the truth" Joe's letting the world "in on", right?
Posted by euzoius at August 10, 2006 12:09 PM