more fakery and lies from a fradulent unelected
pissant...why is anybody surprised?

remember the threat to Air Force one on 911?
or how about all the white house vandalism before the unelected one took office?

just a bunch of lying sacks of shit.

bastards.

"turning out to be nothing more than another PR stunt."
well, duh...........thanks for clearing that up.

What really, really bothers me is the fantasy aspect of the British Airways lie.

It doesn't mean anything to anyone. They made it up just because it sounded good.

What kind of delusional crackpots do we have in the White House? Who make stuff up just for the hell of it?

This is the White House!! These people speak for the entire country!!

There are literally psycopaths loose in the very highest corridors of American policy. It's freaking scary, I tell you.

Don't believe the lies. Bush vowed that he would not govern according to opinion polls. He is the sane one here, it is everyone else that is crazy. He flew half way around the world for a 2 1/2 hour layover because he loves the troops, not to film a campaign ad. Black is white, up is down, obey your leader.

these people are pathological liars but the most frightening aspect of all this is that there is something terribly wrong with the american media, they seem to treat governing as entertainment, my guess is that since most of the media are upper middle class, they have no personal direct effect of government on thier daily lifes, therefore it is just an abstract concept to them.

Moraks- I think you're half right. News departments used to be shielded from rating wars at networks. Now, nothing is safe and news has to be entertaining to get ratings. That's why we get lewinsky, condit, jacko, and laci peterson until we vomit.

Rove plans trips like these precisely because they make good entertaining tv. It's not that reporters don't get it (maybe they don't). It's that their jobs depend on acting as if they don't. Rove uses this to capture news cycles and keep other stuff off the air.

But they can't hide forever. Eventually they'll have to talk about substance (at least at a debate), and that's when we should take them to the woodshed.

It wasn't a fake turkey. It was a real turkey gussied up and used as a centerpiece. My momma always told me that wasting food was a sin, so I think using food as decoration is wrong, and Bush wearing it as a boutonniere is distasteful in the extreme.

Entertainment not news... another aspect of this is the treatment of 'Science Stories' on mainline new shows. Read Robert Pask's book 'Voodoo Science' for a take on this, and weep. And politics as soap opera ('Baywatch' without breast implants) is just another aspect of this.

Edis

I wonder what percent of Americans do not know that the Jessica Lynch rescue was staged.
The problem is that these liars make shit up and get away with it because people are only allowed to hear the lies (by the SCLM) and very little is ever published about the follow-up truth.
Without adequate dissemination of accurate information to voters, we're screwed. How else to explain an approval rating of 50%? I cannot believe that 50% of Americans are complete idiots. I think they are simply misinformed.

I think it was pretty cool that Bush went to Iraq on Thanksgiving and talked with the troops. Of course it was a PR stunt. But a genuine, from the heart, PR stunt.

I think that's why most folks like this President. He does what he says he's going to do. No lies. No deceit. No games. He's very genuine and honest, and that has many Americans saying "It's about time."

I know that frosts the cajones of folks here, but look around. He's a popular president. Instead of coming from right field with all these wacko ideas, intelligent Democrats would be trying to figure out ways to work WITH Bush. It's a great opportunity to get things done to benefit all Americans.

I applaud Gephardt's and Lieberman's rallying behind the President's trip to Iraq. Bravo! We can disagree on the issues, but they've gained my respect.

Ya gotta wonder about the media.

If *I* was running CBS, I would push the hell out of this story. It's compelling, funny and would get a lot of viewers. CBS would be different from every other network and would get better ratings.

Wouldn't you watch?

muckdog,
go fuck yourself.

"I think that's why most folks like this President. He does what he says he's going to do. No lies. No deceit. No games. He's very genuine and honest, and that has many Americans saying "It's about time." "

That'a crock of horseshit, asshole.

Muckdog,

I'm all for bipartisanship and making things better for all Americans.

Somehow I don't think Tom Delay is, and he seems to have bigger cahones than Bush these days when it comes to throwing his weight around Congress.

As far as the trip to Iraq goes I am unable to see it as anything more than a re-election stunt that needlessly put the commander in chief in harms way. He wasn't put in office to get himself killed playing the tough guy.

Imagine the effect on the stock market had AF1 been shot down by a 'lucky shot'.

You see, muckdog is one of those people I was talking about. Out of the goodness of my heart, I have to believe (s)he is simply horribly uninformed (or horribly rich and white and male and without any morals), and not a complete idiot.
I suppose the other option is the Orwellian concept of 'crimestop' whereby these people cannot allow themselves to see the obvious.

"Does what he says he's going to do. No lies, no deceit, no games. Genuine and honest." And, (cough) "Of course it was a PR stunt. But a genuine, from the heart, PR stunt."

Wow.

No BS-detector at all. I guess that's why spam will always be with us -- this is its natural market.

Ummm... Oh, hi there, muckdog! Can I interest you in a bridge? How about some swampland in Florida?

"I think that's why most folks like this President. He does what he says he's going to do. No lies. No deceit. No games. He's very genuine and honest."

Posted by muckdog

... and war is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength. I can only hope that either muckdog does not believe this or that he is well in the minority. Otherwise we might as well scrap the constitution and the three branches of government. The Bush family can be the royal family of the new American Kingdom.

The real problem with all the Bushie lies is that it's so easy to prove that the story was a lie and it usually takes less than a day for someone like British Airways to say it didn't happen. Count the lies that didn't last a whole day. They started on 911 and have been coming almost daily since. My great concern is that not many seem to care that they are seldom told the truth by these guys and the fact his popularity still polls above 50% makes me hunt up the anti-depressants.