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Bring on the tumbrels.

Posted by TEScott at August 17, 2006 01:34 AM

best bumper sticker ever:
A working person that votes Republican is like a chicken that supports Colonel Sanders.

Posted by howard hughes blues at August 17, 2006 01:58 AM

And let us not forget the 1955 June Revolution against the greedy Perone bastards in Argentina.

I guess when the Navy is blowing up your palace, you may have stolen too much. 12 years of El Lider's rule was made to disappear in a Saadam Statue minute.

Too bad bush never took a history book home.
Don't cry for me, Amerentina.

Posted by TIKI AL at August 17, 2006 02:29 AM

Sadly so many of ruling Party in America now, tho they give lip service to a form of Godliness forget most of the Bible they claim to revere. There hundreds of verses in the Book to remind us of our social responsibilities, very few that can be construed to bless this teeth-whitened, W stickered SUV driving, Mega-Church, uncaring crowd that rules the Republican party these days. They should read the Prophet Amos and learn what happens to those uncaring elites.

"Shame on you! you who make unjust laws and publish burdensome decrees, depriving the poor of justice, robbing the weakest of my people of their rights, despoiling the widow and plundering the orphan. What will you do when called to account, when ruin from afar confronts you? To whom will you flee for help?" -- Isaiah 10:1-3

Posted by Monk-in-Training at August 17, 2006 03:38 AM

"Money is the root of all evil." That saying has a new meaning for me now.

Posted by Judith at August 17, 2006 03:48 AM

You can only build those walls in gated communities so high. People never seem to learn from the past.

Posted by Judith at August 17, 2006 04:56 AM

Want to know how silly we have gotten?

Hey ladies, take out those gell bras and leave them at home. They may contain explosive liquids. Warning to all women.

Posted by Judith at August 17, 2006 05:01 AM

I thought the royal aspects of St. Reagan's administration was obscene, but the Bush junta has taken it to a new level.

Posted by Christopher at August 17, 2006 05:05 AM

Howard, your right. That is one of the best.

Posted by Judith at August 17, 2006 05:32 AM

Judith: An Israeli woman's life was saved by her left breast implant. They showed the x-ray of Katusha ball bearings lodged in it, keeping them out of her chest cavity.

I don't know how effective Kevlar gell bras are.

Posted by TIKI AL at August 17, 2006 05:42 AM

Any bets the "Liquid Bombers" case evaporates and becomes another Bush-Blair shadow boxing scare by Labor Day??

Posted by Goyo at August 17, 2006 07:27 AM

Corporate executives take home $1-5 Million dollars a month, award themselves bonuses each year in the millions, then receive another $10-50 Million upon retirement, whether their company makes money, loses money or breaks even. Meanwhile the middle-class, mid-level managers and horly workers are paid or not paid based on 'performance,' and watch their purchasing power decline with each passing year. When the companies begin to tank, the hourly workers and the lower level management are forced to take a cut in salary, get laid off, and see their pension fund looted.
This scenario would never have been tolerated by the workers nor by Wall Street before the 1980's. However the Reagun junta somehow managed to plant the meme into the public's mind that 'greed is good.' T. Boone Pickens and his ilk were held up as heroes, advancing capitalism and getting us 'back on track,' while organized labor was portrayed as a drag on the economy, with its protection of lazy, unproductive workers and outrageous wage demands. The mid-level management types and small business owners did not require much of a hard sell to accept this. With their Associate's and Bachelor's degrees from the community college in hand, they all saw themselves as a potential Gordon Gecko and welcomed the junta's union busting tactics and the subsequent decline of Labor's influence in the political sphere. The decline of Labor's political influence over the last two decades is the major factor in the rising disparity between the haves and have-nots, and unless the middle class wakes up, there will eventually be no middle class. Unfortunately, they pay more attention to the next episode of 'Survivor' than they do their own self interest. They will burn up the telephone to vote for the next 'Idol' but will not devote a half hour out of their lives to listen to a presidential or senatorial debate, or worse yet to take the time to vote on election day. It is incomprehensible how 'Joe Sixpack,' the union worker himself, who has aided and abetted in his own destruction by voting overwhelmingly Republican for the last twenty-five years, contrary to his own self interest.
The Republicans have sucessfully planted the meme that 'a rising tide lifts all boats,' and this is indeed true. What is a blatant deception though is their means of raising the water level. They would have us think that by relieving Haliburton, Exxon and the CEO's of their fair share of taxes, our economic well being is enhanced. By this reasoning, if Dick Cheney has filet mignon at evey meal, somehow my children will be healthier. They will, of course, if I'm willing to go through his trash can to scrounge his table scraps.
The rise of the middle class in the last century was the result of collective bargaining by the unions. Every time a union worker received a raise, obtained improvements in their working conditions, or had their benefits enhanced, the middle level manager and non union workers were accorded the same. A rising tide starts from the bottom up, not from the top down

Posted by AnnieChrist at August 17, 2006 07:29 AM

Senate Reoublicans backing Lieberman.

Note to DLC senators:Is there any doubt now who he will caucus with next year if he wins in November?

Posted by herbal tee at August 17, 2006 09:25 AM

I don't know how effective Kevlar gell bras are.

I don't know either, but I bet if the lace is placed just so they are pretty damn sexy.


Any bets the "Liquid Bombers" case evaporates and becomes another Bush-Blair shadow boxing scare

Your bet is a sure thing. If there was anything really there, the tards at Buschco screwed it up. But no problem. The Mad King will have them extraordinary-renditioned and torture them for years without charges or representation. The U.S.S.A. is tricky in that fashion.


But what is to be done? What can be done?

Well, Kennedy took the top tax rate from 70% to 63% to spur the economy (that's when the Middle Class top bracket was something like 15%, as I remember, but I'm not looking it up). I say we experiment with 63% at the top tax bracket again. Ending the $1 trillion dollars in corporate welfare and actually having capitalism instead of republi-con ayatollah-socialism would be another. I think we should keep the bulk of the $100 billion or so we give Israel to support their lifestyles and it should go to Americans.

The other option is to turn the wealthy into WWII Leningrad chicken nuggets, if you catch my drift. They go lovely with fava beans and a nice chianti.

Posted by phidipides at August 17, 2006 09:30 AM

Hartmann has pointed out that it certainly is convenient that the entire news cycle is eaten up by a 10 year old 'who killed the white girl' cold case, just as this breaks.

Posted by Anjha at August 17, 2006 09:33 AM

It stands to reason. We do what we need to, not what we want. I would love to be a teacher and a football coach, at any level.
Who'll pay my mortgage?
Fight for me in congress?
Stand up to state legislators?
Who?
The elite.
The unworthy.
American Nobility has arrived.
Get used to it, or get crushed by it.
Try not to think too much about it.
I can feel my soul drying up as I stand here.
Men are dying and imposing death upon the human landscape around the world.
I used to believe the US could do some good.
We can, it's not too late.
We need to move fast before our influence is gone.
It will take generations of catchup to fix.
We are creating a world where what we see on TV;
will be knocking on our doors.

Posted by ventureservant at August 17, 2006 09:46 AM

To add to AC,
The trade agreements that we have are not good.
This includes Clinton in the 90's.
I was thinking last night:
Remember when Clinton was saying that he only earned $35,000 as gov of Ark?
Well, both he and his wife are now multi millionaires.
The reason that they aren't richer is because they are lazy.
They had to have lotsa helpt on those books that made them thos bucks.
I can't say that it is only repubs.
Since 1981 the slant has been away from work and toward service and those who have $ to invest.
The manufacturing sector is depleted.
Tom Friedman is such a jerk.
We need to state that it is NOT okay for this tax code to continue.
The Iraq war is taking us down the tubes.
There is so much wrong for so long and the political party of a candidate does not matter.
It's what that person knows and understands. And what that person has upermost in mind. The country or selfish status seeking and power.
Well, that's all for now.
Maude

Posted by Maude at August 17, 2006 09:58 AM

The phrase is, "The love of money is the root of all evil." Money can be a force for good, if used properly. Avarice, greed, hoarding selfishness and other things stemming from the love of money are what lead to evil, not the money per se.

Posted by Mimikatz at August 17, 2006 10:14 AM

HEH.

Could it have been said better?

Posted by Anjha at August 17, 2006 10:26 AM

Comments should be working again. Sorry for the interruption.

Posted by Mary at August 17, 2006 12:31 PM

New poll shows Lieberman leading Lamont. What the hell is going on. Did Connecticut get it wrong? Are the smears sticking? Just what is happening?

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/15294750.htm

Posted by Judith at August 17, 2006 05:11 PM

The droning meme from always-perfect-synch (like a bacterial colony) Right machine has been to connect the fate of Lieberman with "the hate" directed at Israel (only human beings can be hated, the mongrel races dont count), and Lamont with "the far-Left" and terrorist supporters. They started beating that drum 24/7 on a hundred talk radio shows, Fox Spews, and op-ed pages the second the primary results came in. They may be scum, but they're very well organized scum, and they know how to respond when the hive is threatened.

Posted by jondee at August 18, 2006 01:36 PM

AnnieChrist - Very well said. I've made virtually the same points to a couple of self styled "libertarians" at TalkLeft and it almost never fails to elicit a reaction as redolent of tolerance as you might expect from upper-caste Hindus asked to bathe with untouchables.
Apparently, somewhere in the Right/Libertarian consciousness, the very word "union" is code for bolsheviks, gulags, dictatorship of the proletariat, burning flags, pandemonium, miscegenation, cats and dogs mating in the street etc Interestingly, in keeping with top-down economics, this is one of memes that all the big conservative foundations and think tanks have dedicated themselves to perpetuating. But hey, if they're rich they gotta be right. Right?

Posted by jondee at August 18, 2006 02:13 PM

The time between now and November elections will be interesting. I cannot believe that the majority of this country wants more of the same. Reagan asked "Are you better off now than you were 4 (6) years ago?" What is the matter with people? I could cry.

Posted by Annie at August 18, 2006 06:17 PM
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