this is more than denial by big dick, this is pathological denial and/or outright lying
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/17/cheney-rush/
“If you look at the general overall situation, they’re doing remarkably well.” - Darth cheney about conditions in Iraq
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,20601699-5006506,00.html
FORMER US secretary of state James Baker was visibly shocked when he last visited Iraq, and said the country was in a "helluva mess", the BBC reported today.....
What I want to know, is how did James Baker become involved? Did Daddy send in his friends, against Bush's wishes, or did Bush go running to Daddy to have his friends bail him out? My guess is that Bush did not ask for help from Baker or his Daddy, and thus he will only dig his heels in making him more resolute. Cheney and Baker are sure not on the same page.
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 05:03 AMO'Rielly, it seems, has now cast himself in the role of physician. Do these people ever understand how ridiculous and stupid they sound?
"O'Reilly, was speculating that "legal abortions" "may not be the law of the land, unfettered, much longer" because the courts are considering several cases challenging the constitutionality of laws restricting abortion rights. O'Reilly mentioned that "South Dakota, as you know, has voted to outlaw abortions unless the mother's life is in danger,
WHICH IS NEVER THE CASE, BECAUSE YU CAN ALWAYS HAVE A C-SECTION AND DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200610160007
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 05:25 AMMichael72, Baker also said "It's not going to be stay the course. The bottom line is, (current policy) isn't working. There's got to be another way." I wonder how Bush feels about those words.
Judge "erases" Kennyboy Lay's conviction.
Now, he's free to live out his days at his manse in the Cayman Islands and his family have access to his enormous fortune -- most of it off-shored and protected.
The scumbag.
Posted by Christopher at October 18, 2006 05:53 AMAccording to author/reporter Robert Dreyfuss, Baker's Commission was created early this year by some Republican "realists" (Faux-Mod Warner, etc.) in Congress.
Don't know if Team Nero agreed, didn't fight it, whatever.
Posted by euzoius at October 18, 2006 06:23 AMNow, he's free to live out his days at his manse in the Cayman Islands...
Ummm...he's dead.
Posted by snark at October 18, 2006 06:27 AMChristopher, Lay's wife is facing a civil suit, which may rule differently. Yeah, I couldn't believe the verdict either by the judge. Seems that because he died, he didn't have the chance to appeal his case, thus no further action is needed. WTF???????? Hope his wife enjoys the money her husband stole from people.
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 06:30 AMWonder if that law would apply to the rest of us?
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 06:32 AMSeems that because he died, he didn't have the chance to appeal his case, thus no further action is needed.
No further action is possible. Unless of course you want the justice system to hold his relatives liable for the crimes he committed. I don't think that's a road anyone other than a Republican wants to go down.
I do believe his estate is still open to civil judgements against it however.
Posted by snark at October 18, 2006 06:36 AMSounds like the trial judge in the Kenny Boy matter was simply following a directly applicable precedent of the US Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, which he is required to do, as his court is in the 5th Circuit.
The judge basically has no choice--he must follow applicable precedents laid out by the appeals court.
Seems like a weird prior ruling by the 5th Circuit--we'll see what the 5th Circuit does when this Kenny Boy ruling is appealed.
Posted by euzoius at October 18, 2006 06:36 AMPerhaps this early comment by the Baker Commission is a "feint". They might be trying to secure credibility by stating that a new course of action is on the table. But in the end they will conclude that the only way to make the Iraq invasion successful is to "stay the course".
Posted by Kevin at October 18, 2006 06:38 AMEuzoius, I can't imagine Bush following anyone's advice, least of all one of Bush Senior's buds. Furthermore, Rumsfeld is not going to listen to anyone. Maybe a trip to Capitol Hill to explain the facts to Bush is in order.
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 06:43 AM10 US dead in baghdad yesterday. just like New York, congressman King! stay the corpse!
Posted by benjoya at October 18, 2006 06:47 AMsorry, not all in baghdad, but 10 KIA in iraq.
Posted by benjoya at October 18, 2006 06:48 AMKevin, you may be right. I guess 2,772 is a big enough number yet.
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 06:50 AMKevin, you may be right. I guess 2,772 isn't a big enough number yet.
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 06:51 AMWHICH IS NEVER THE CASE, BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS HAVE A C-SECTION AND DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
O'Reilly doesn't know the difference between a loofah and falafel, but he's an expert on childbirth? His female viewers must have appreciated that remark. Hate to tell him but not all conservative women are anti-choice. Bill might want to take a look at the petitions in South Dakota to overturn their draconian abortion ban - lots of Republican women signing those.
Posted by ann at October 18, 2006 06:52 AMUmmm...he's dead.
Ummm, did you see his corpse before he was cremated?
Just saying....
Posted by Christopher at October 18, 2006 06:54 AMtake the house and impeach..i pray for it
Posted by dennis at October 18, 2006 06:54 AMJudith,
Well, Mrs. Kennyboy can always reopen her thrift store and sell off her bubbles and clothes.
Posted by Christopher at October 18, 2006 06:56 AM"big" bill loofah oreilly..can you believe how they hushed that one up..it's amazing to me that guy has the balls to say anything about anybody....i wish to hell they had released the transcripts between bill and his female employee ..piece of shit
Posted by dennis at October 18, 2006 06:58 AMwe will be over 2800 GI deaths in Bush's Iraq War by election day. Some October Surprise, huh Karl.
Posted by t2 at October 18, 2006 07:01 AMAfter Democrats regain the U.S. House of Representatives, will Rep. Pelosi have the cajones to turn the wheels of Impeachment?
My guess is, no.
Posted by Christopher at October 18, 2006 07:08 AMAnn, that was my first thought also. Republican women also have pregancies terminated to save their lives (or maybe they just opt to die). I would imagine he received a few emails.
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 07:11 AMi think it entirely possible..whole loota crimes been committed by this administration...doctored evidence for a war that didn't need to be fought...
Posted by dennis at October 18, 2006 07:11 AMCorrection: 2,782
T2, how right you are. 3,000 will be hit by the end of the year at this rate. Happy New Year America.
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 07:17 AMAnd if Bush isn't removed from office, by the time the nightmare comes to a close in 2008, that casualty number may very well be 10,000.
Posted by Christopher at October 18, 2006 07:21 AMAfter Democrats regain the U.S. House of Representatives, will Rep. Pelosi have the cajones to turn the wheels of Impeachment?
Honestly, I'll be disappointed if that's the route the Democrats go. Disappointed that they would be so stupid as to do exactly what the reactionary right is expecting the Dems to do.
Posted by snark at October 18, 2006 07:24 AMI agree Christopher.Serious impeachment procedures will probably never come to fruition.With just two years left in Bush's term, it's not likely there will be time or energy for that.
But don't those Democrats that voted for the war, have a strong incentive to investigate how the Bush Administration lied to get us into Iraq?
Posted by Kevin at October 18, 2006 07:31 AMWhat else has he been doing? Here's one item overlooked by the press.
President Bush has signed a new National Space Policy that rejects future arms-control agreements that might limit U.S. flexibility in space and asserts a right to deny access to space to anyone "hostile to U.S. interests."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/17/AR2006101701484_pf.html
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 07:36 AMCENSURE BUSH!
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 07:43 AMI think all the "leaks" from the Baker commission have successfully gotten Bush to change his rhetoric. He's now talking about flexibility, and when he takes the commission's advice, which I think he will, he'll frame it as "staying the course, which means we get the job done" whether that means withdrawing some troops or talking to Syria. The "job" of course, has already been redefined several times and no one really knows what it is anymore. I think there's quite a good chance that the "new" course will be exactly what Murtha has said, but it'll be couched in a way that will try to make it sound like it's not the dem "cut and run" plan.
Posted by CG at October 18, 2006 07:47 AMKevin,
Bush is too useful IN office to Democrats up for election in 2008. They will milk this cow all the way to market.
A shame, because Little Boots has said, "We're not leavin' I-Rack, as long as Ah am prezz-dint."
Posted by Christopher at October 18, 2006 07:51 AMWonder if that law would apply to the rest of us?
Laws are for anyone making under $400,000. per year.
President Bush has signed a new National Space Policy that rejects future arms-control agreements that might limit U.S. flexibility in space and asserts a right to deny access to space to anyone "hostile to U.S. interests."
That's where the Chinese "lasers" come in.
sorry, not all in baghdad, but 10 KIA in iraq
Just numbers. Nothing more than a comma in a history book. They aren't really people. That's why they can't get a job when they leave the service, and the benefits are starting to deny their families medical care. It's the new republi-con corporate military. We thank you for your service, just go the fuck away.
Posted by phidipides at October 18, 2006 08:13 AMNancy Pelosi could say something like this:
"Why we went to war is a matter of great importance. But even though it would help the Democratic Party ,we do not intend to derail the entire federal government by impeachment procedures.
I only wish the Republicans had thought of their country instead of their party in 1998 when the matter was only marital infidelity"
Kevin, I like that line of thinking. Sure would make the GOP look like what they are, assho*es.
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 08:33 AMimpeachment in my eyes has nothing to do with political revenge..i want justice..i want wrongs to be righted..i want some people to pay for what they have done..they stole the election in 2000..they let us be attacked on our soil and they took that and ran with it so that hundreds of thousands of people have been killed maimed..tortured..orphaned..lives never the same..a country (iraq)that is in total ruin..the middle east is a mess..the whole world has changed for the worse..all in 6 years..somebody should pay..history will not be kind to this administration..and neither should any civilized person...
Posted by dennis at October 18, 2006 08:39 AMthe republican party derailed the country for a year and a half..over a consensual you know what..consensual...no one made monica do anything....and they impeached him...for what?????? for lying about something that wasn't a crime...using that as a criteria i'd say bush deserves to be impeached..
Posted by dennis at October 18, 2006 08:56 AMI didn't say Bush doesn't desreve to be impeached. Lord knows the Republicans lowered the bar prettymuch to the ground on what constitutes an impeachable offense.
I just think it would be incredibly stupid for two reasons. First, it would have no chance of success given the requirement for impeachment. So attempting it with that obvious reality makes it appear inherently political (ala the Clinton impeachment). Second, it would simply alienate a large segment of the American public from supporting anything the Democratic majority tries to do between know and the next election.
I would fully support an investigation into the use and manipulation of pre-war intelligence by the administration and a call for an official censure of the president.
Posted by snark at October 18, 2006 09:04 AMif the dems take the house..this administation will be investigated til hell freezes over..and i'd bet my life there is a ton of evidence of serious crimes against humanity..impeachable offenses in the eyes of the world...justice done..no politics involved..
Posted by dennis at October 18, 2006 09:14 AMIf that's the case then so be it.
By all means let's bring the facts to light.
Posted by snark at October 18, 2006 09:27 AMno can only hope..but i pray the day will come that these guys get what they deserve and i can once again be proud to be an american..because i'm not now
these guys make me feel dirty..and i want to feel clean again...
I'm with snark, let's get the country back on track first. Then start with the subpoenas for the administration's crimes. Though the bushies all deserve to be behind bars, grandstand impeachment hearings will alienate the public as much as the Monica crap did.
The best way to hurt 'em is to take back all the money they stole from the American People.
Posted by iamcoyote at October 18, 2006 10:12 AMHere's more Republican creepy sexual exploits from the Chicago Tribune today:
A Kane County Board candidate arrested last week on sexual assault charges died Tuesday when his vehicle slammed head-on into a concrete bridge support, Aurora police said.
Brent K. Schepp, 36, a father of four from Aurora, was traveling at "a very high rate of speed" on Eola Road and did not try to brake or take any evasive action, said Dan Ferrelli, police spokesman.
Schepp was seeking the board's District 3 seat, but his first bid for office quickly unraveled with the announcement Friday of charges that he sexually abused and assaulted two teenage girls in 2005. The Kane County Republican Central Committee withdrew its endorsement of his candidacy that afternoon.
Schepp had been under investigation for two months. He was charged with 14 counts of criminal sexual assault, 10 counts of criminal sexual abuse and two counts of unlawful delivery of alcohol to a minor.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0610180094oct18,1,4879416.story?coll=chi-news-hed
Posted by ann at October 18, 2006 10:23 AMDennis,
Lying about it was the Crime!!! Now is it impeachable...I don't know, however, I do know that if anybody else, anyone of us, committed perjury, we would be in jail for 7 years.
Clinton...Great President, stupid mistake.
Posted by at October 18, 2006 11:56 AM...I do know that if anybody else, anyone of us, committed perjury, we would be in jail for 7 years.
Do you really know that?
Posted by snark at October 18, 2006 12:02 PMi understand that the lying was the crime..but think about it...he lied about something that wasn't a crime...and they impeached him..it didn't make sense then and it doesn't make sense now...they were going to impeach him one way or another...their end justified any means..and it was thoroughly and completely politically motivated..period end of story
Posted by dennis at October 18, 2006 12:26 PMCNN newsflash: Dirty bombs are going to blow up NFL stadiums. I was wondering how long it would be before Homeland Security got the memo from Rove to start scaring the crap out of the sheeple again.
Dirty bomb damage pales when compared to the Cardinals self-destruction against da bears Monday night.
Posted by TIKI AL at October 18, 2006 12:59 PMDenny Green was hoping for a dirty bomb scare during the second half Monday night no doubt.
Posted by snark at October 18, 2006 01:04 PMGreen would have been happy for a scare late in the 4th quarter!
Posted by Seven of Six at October 18, 2006 01:09 PMWhat I don't understand is for them to specify NFL stadiums? Would'nt a dirty bomb during rush hour of any major city be just as destructive?
Posted by Seven of Six at October 18, 2006 01:22 PMI'm with snark, let's get the country back on track first.
With The Mad King, idiot son of George as President? You are jesting, correct? Getting the country back on track will take 12 to 15 years, not overnight.
Immediate impeachmnet of Bush, then immediate impeachment of Cheney. They committed capital criminal acts while in office. Bad criminal acts. The entire Administration gets a trip to the Hague to let the International community sort it out. Any beaurocrat appointed by the Mad King is replaced, purging the civil service. At least two Supreme Court jusitces impeached. Many federal Judges impeached. The organism of the neo-cons must be crushed and destroyed forever. Thankfully, the republi-cons are leaving us the tools to do it in secret.
Dirty bombs are going to blow up NFL stadiums.
God damnit, not dirty bombs!? You have to take a shower and use vacuum cleaners to pick it up with. We can never survive this!
Posted by phidipides at October 18, 2006 01:23 PMWould'nt a dirty bomb during rush hour of any major city be just as destructive?
Yes, but by targeting the NFL games they can single handedly cripple the beer industry in the United States.
Someone check for anomylous put options on Coors and Anheiser-Busch!
Posted by snark at October 18, 2006 01:28 PMI think they're hoping people read or saw Tom Clancy's Sum of all Fears that's been in heavy rotation on the tube. It's easier to scare people if you don't have to explain too much.
Posted by iamcoyote at October 18, 2006 01:30 PMNow Wolf Blitzer has a map up on CNN of the lucky 7 stadiums that are going to be Nagasakified on Sunday.
Wanna bet that the threatening "Islamic" website leads right to the whitehouse basement?
Maybe we can scalp life insurance policies at the stadium entrances.
Posted by TIKI AL at October 18, 2006 01:31 PMSomeone check for anomylous put options on Coors and Anheiser-Busch!
Oh puh-leeze! This crap can't happen. But saying a guy thought it would...just saying...and they were going to establish a put option spread...you know...just thinking out loud...and they're thinking bullish since the red-staters will be lit for months in celebration after an incident...and since it is better to select spreads with a short at-the-money put...and considering the P/L ratios and put options spreads.... I'll be back. I need to get my HP financial calculator.
Posted by phidipides thinking like Cramer at October 18, 2006 02:05 PMphidipides..i'm with you ..impeach em and jail em..and throw away the fucking key and show the world we're sorry for what we've done..this bunch deserves the absolute worst punishment possible..mass murderers the lot of them..
Posted by dennis at October 18, 2006 02:49 PMThe corporate media is touting the dow hitting 12,000. 80% of stockmarket wealth is owned by 10% of the population.
Why should Joe 6-pack give a crap?
Posted by TIKI AL at October 18, 2006 04:00 PM"Dirty bomb damage pales when compared to the Cardinals self-destruction against da bears Monday night."
Hey watch it TIKI AL.
GO CARDS!
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 04:23 PMOops, I think you were talking football.
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 04:26 PMSeriously?
The blogosphere should pick this up and push it so much so that corporate media might just grab it.
WTF?
Posted by Anjha at October 18, 2006 04:50 PMRiverbend posted! Whew!
Posted by Seven of Six at October 18, 2006 05:00 PMCalifornia - Hispanics received letters in the mail telling them that they would be arrested and deported if they showed up at the polls to vote.
Anjah, Bill Moyers will be on at 9:00 PBS. Storyline is about corporations and the future of the Internet for us all.
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 05:55 PMIt's called "The Net at Risk"
Posted by Judith at October 18, 2006 05:57 PMWhy should Joe 6-pack give a crap?
because....he might win the lottery and then be able to invest? because he's heard that most people own stocks and thinks it'll make a difference in the long run for his 401(k)? because....he votes the income bracket wishes he was in (heck, if I had the money that Paris Hilton has, I wouldn't want to have to pay my fair share, either) because he's a victim of a misinformation campaign?
just guessin'
Posted by ann at October 18, 2006 07:39 PM