God bless Keith Olbermann. A voice in the wilderness. I fear for him.
Posted by Judith at November 2, 2006 01:34 AMTime to send another letter or email of support to Olbermann. Here is one man speaking truth to lies and we are obliged, if not outright indebted, to show our support.
countdown@msnbc.com
kolbermann@msnbc.com
Bill Maher:
“Don’t I Want America To Win? Are We Talking About A War…Or The Winter Olympics?”…
Posted by Judith at November 2, 2006 02:01 AMYou know your winning when the opposition resorts to acts of terror like this. Here's a new low:
'Ugly' Mailer Stirs Controversy About Negative Political Ad Trend
Perlmutter Criticizes Mailer Designed As Sex Offender Notification
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/politics/10204346/detail.html
Posted by Judith at November 2, 2006 02:08 AMSorry, didn't get the full quote.
Bill Maher
"Don't I want America to win? Are we talking about a war or the Winter Olympics? I thought we wanted democracy to win. 103 Americans died in Iraq last month. Was that winning?"
i am looking forward to next tues like never before..
Posted by dennisdpnann@verizon.net at November 2, 2006 02:13 AMif we don't win the house back on tues..something is very seriously wrong with this country ..very.and i don't mean the people..imean the vote counters..
Posted by dennis at November 2, 2006 02:24 AMthere's something here that has puzzled me for a long time. If the majority is anti Republican, why does every AM radio station you turn on spout non stop Republican propaganda? What exactly is the mechanism by which these assholes stay on the air. Because we all without the Wurlitzer the Repub popularity would dwindle to zero.
Posted by howard hughes blues at November 2, 2006 03:03 AMi know i beat this like a dead horse..but the election was stolen from the american people in 2000..what has happened to the world in a very short time is nothing short of in credible..if one third of a wingnut population and a band of criminals can keep the power through voter fraud..which has already happened..then we have a problem beyond what i ever dreamed..if the dems don't take the house..it will be rigged...the people want a change..we've been fucked for six years
Posted by dennis at November 2, 2006 03:23 AMYeah dennis, your allies have already attempted to effect the vote...
ACORN Workers Indicted For Alleged Voter Fraud
The Kansas City Election Board told KMBC they found suspicious forms, such as seven applications from one person and an application for a dead man.
Up to your old bag of LBJ tricks I see.
The only people comvicted of voter fraud in recent years have been Democrats or their allies.
Posted by peter at November 2, 2006 03:30 AMthis administration is in power through lies and deception ..for profit..they have created a world disaster..they are crinminals..whose followers are very simple people
Posted by dennis at November 2, 2006 03:34 AMKeith Olberman is an unfortunately rare voice of outrage in the wilderness. I can't agree more wholeheartedly with everything he said. And once again, I'm bitterly disappointed by the "leadership" shown by John Kerry.
I can smell the work of the Beltway cowards and Wormtongues in his half-assed "apology". I can imagine their whispered advice. "We're so close this time!" "This thing is distracting from our "message"". "They won't shut up until you put it behind you." And then we get some Democrats sniping at him from the sidelines, reinforcing the Republican message, shamelessly.
Bullshit! Once again, Kerry FAILED to take what is the strength of the Republican machine and turn it into a weakness. We WANT the message to be about the Administration's abuse of the military, not let them be it's righteous defenders!
What Kerry should have done is call a press conference. He should have begun,
"We've all been hearing bleats of outrage from the Republican spin machine about how I've insuled the American troops currently serving in harm's way. I've NEVER insulted the men and women who serve their country and proudly wear the uniform of the American armed forces, unlike almost ALL of my loudest critics. The STENCH of hypocrisy is overwhelming, that members of this Administration, which misled us into a war of choice; whose incrediblly poor planning sent American men and women into war without proper armor, weapons and supplies; who ignored all experienced, military voices who warned of obvious dangers and whose post invasion plans were ignored, who themselves provided NO plan capable of dealing with the crisis they created and who SUPPORT the troops by cutting food and housing benefits to the families of those serving in their war; who want to charge soldiers recovering from their wounds for the very MEALS they eat in the hospital.
THESE are the people demanding an apology from ME? Gaseous commentators courageously manning their microphones and keyboards, who never themselves found the time to put on a uniform when their country needed them? I'll apolgize the THEM When Dick Cheney's undisclosed location freezes over!" End of news conference."
Now that's a John Kerry I'd like to see 5 days before a critical election. Unfortunately, with typical Democrat profiles in courage, we may yet see that, once again, we're SO close to winning a majority. At least there are 105 more troops John doesn't have to apologize to this month.
Posted by DeminNewJ at November 2, 2006 03:40 AMThe fact that Little Boots pledged yesterday his undying support for Cheney and Rummy the Dummy should be evidence to even his most loyal supporters that that Bush is batshit whacko and needs to be impeached and sent packing.
Just saying.........
Posted by Christopher at November 2, 2006 03:42 AMthe fraud in the white house is on a crusade..literally..he is batshit crazy..these are bad men..what john kerry did isn't going to change any minds despite the republican disengenuous attempts to do so..he flubbed telling a joke...i would agree however that john ought to shut up..and heaven help us his wife starts to open her mouth...maybe someone can explain something to me..how come the 30% wingnut population..who has been fucked right along with the rest of us..don't know they've been fucked..how is that
Posted by dennis at November 2, 2006 03:55 AMDidn't you see the picture from some of our service members "'stuck' hear n Irak"? Yeah, they didn't get the joke either, but they're from the Minnesota NG. Kerry's the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by peter at November 2, 2006 04:06 AMPeter,
LOL! Have you talked to any service member? Iraq is an assignment from hell. I imagine that you think it's a great thing that Bush is doing what the muslim fundamentalist al-sadr wants and is retreating.
Hey Georgia, where are the Dems in your state? How many winners do you get to vote for?
Head of state ordered that change. We're still trying to find that GI. No ones been left behind yet. Well if Dems had their say, who knows how many would be left behind. How many loyal Vietnamese were left behind because Dems wouldn't fund that effort correctly?
Posted by peter at November 2, 2006 04:18 AMHow many winners do you get to vote for?
What are you, twelve? Is it only fun if you're voting for "winners?" Good God you are a pathetic troll.
Posted by ann at November 2, 2006 04:39 AMWell, I've had my coffee now. The news broadcasts this morning are all about the "Kerry gaffe" and "Kerry's apology" and that "Democrats are cringing" at the unwanted opening given to the Mighty Wurlitzer. That what my earlier, angry post was about.
Kerry actually, after a meandering early repsonse about "just a joke" gave a very good attack speech, similar to what I wished for. I was surprised and delighted. Unfortunately, instead of staying on the offense and making this about Republican failures with the military, Kerry allowed his will to be whittled by the usual suspects and now the story is everything the slime machine could have hoped for.
I cede nothing to the "wisdom" of the current crop of Democrat advisors. While they always manage to enrich themselves, their advice has managed, for the last two decades, to take a majority party, whose positions, when they're allowed to leak out, are supported by a majority of the people, languish in minority status and even lose ground when they SHOULD be winning big time.
Posted by DeminNewJ at November 2, 2006 04:47 AMAndrew Sullivan on the soldier left behind:
The U.S. military does not have a tradition of abandoning its own soldiers to foreign militias, or of taking orders from foreign governments. No commander-in-chief who actually walks the walk, rather than swaggering the swagger, would acquiesce to such a thing. The soldier appears to be of Iraqi descent who is married to an Iraqi woman. Who authorized abandoning him to the enemy? Who is really giving the orders to the U.S. military in Iraq? These are real questions about honor and sacrifice and a war that is now careening out of any control. They are not phony questions drummed up by a partisan media machine to appeal to emotions to maintain power.
And where, by the way, is McCain on this? Silent on Cheney's "no-brainer" on waterboarding. Silent recently on Iraq. But vocal - oh, how vocal - on Kerry. It tells you something about what has happened to him. And to America.
Posted by ann at November 2, 2006 04:51 AMann, peter's a real winner alright. He's stuck in his mom's basement still playing with his GI Joe and Risk games. That's why Junior and the repukelican party appeals to him....the majority of them are still emotionally stuck at the grade school maturity level.
Posted by emal at November 2, 2006 04:56 AMDeminNJ, what this whole Kerry issue revealed is that the Mighty Wurlitzer and the RNC are still manufacturing idiot non stories against Dems just like they did to Doctor Governor Dean with the non scream ...scream story....Yeaarrrgghhhh Yes they all are still complicit in this manufacturing of their own reality especially there are millions of more important stories out there that the failed/corrupt supine media doesn't cover with half as much vigor. And lastly it reveals, the Democrats are still sadly stuck in that Battered Democrat Syndrome mentality. The more things change the more they stay the same. My hope is that what is different this time is that people have really soured on Junior and the republican party tactics and are turned off big time by this type of bs.
Posted by at November 2, 2006 05:03 AMMe above...rushing off to work.
Posted by emal at November 2, 2006 05:08 AMPeter: your info about convictions in voting fraud is erroneous. Republicans have been convicted. I know of no Democrats who have. And as you note, those ACORN folks are not convicted, nor do you offer evidence that they are Democrats. So either put up the specifics or shut up.
Also, How many loyal Vietnamese were left behind because Dems wouldn't fund that effort correctly?
The pullout occurred under Gerald Ford, he had all the funds necessary to do a better job. And what happened 32 years ago is completely irrelevant to today, unless you believe that everyone is incapable of learning, maturing or gaining wisdom.
Keep fighting yesterday's battles. The only ones Republicans have won in the past century are the ones that begin with "if only" and end at the line between imagination and reality.
Posted by Kevin Hayden at November 2, 2006 05:11 AM"there's something here that has puzzled me for a long time. If the majority is anti Republican, why does every AM radio station you turn on spout non stop Republican propaganda? What exactly is the mechanism by which these assholes stay on the air. Because we all without the Wurlitzer the Repub popularity would dwindle to zero."
Under Reagan, the "Fairness Doctrine" that had mandated equal time for issues/candidates appearing on the publics' airwaves, was abolished.
Posted by matthew at November 2, 2006 05:37 AMDeminNewJ, good post.
Peter, Peter, the bullshit eater, yawn zzzzzzzzz.
Posted by Judith at November 2, 2006 05:38 AMpeter is here for the same reason as Bagley.
To provoke angry responses to his silly comments.
Ignore him and he'll go seek the company of his 'winner' friends.
Posted by snark at November 2, 2006 05:50 AMYeah dennis, your allies have already attempted to effect the vote...
ACORN Workers Indicted For Alleged Voter Fraud
The Kansas City Election Board told KMBC they found suspicious forms, such as seven applications from one person and an application for a dead man.
Up to your old bag of LBJ tricks I see.
The only people comvicted of voter fraud in recent years have been Democrats or their allies.
Posted by peter at November 2, 2006 03:30 AM
Up to your standard Republican't lie and smear tactics again I see...
Funny thing, though - the stories I see lately are about electronic touch screen machines erroring out when trying to register Democratic votes, and registering their votes to Republican'ts instead.
I wonder why a fawning, Putsch fellating, Republican't propaganda spewing frelltard such as yourself failed to notice any of that, what with (possibly) seven extra ineligible registrations processed in Kansas on your radar? Oh, wait...
Posted by (: Tom :) at November 2, 2006 05:57 AMOh peter. What a moron. The only person convicted recently was a republi-con who jammed phone lines. Got his orders from Rove. sweet, huh? And what about the 12 republi-cons arrested in California for tampering with election records?
And if you knew anything, dumbshit, ACORN recruits for republi-cons as well as Democrats. What a fucking idiot. They are an independent firm hired to get voter registrations and they make their money on each registration, you failed conservative asswipe. They were packing their paychecks, moron. I would explain this in detail, but it went over your fucking shallow intellect when you turned your mom's computer on.
Posted by phidipides at November 2, 2006 06:20 AMNot sure if this is exactly new news or not because I don't usually read him but David Brooks basically declared Iraq a lost cause in his Times piece today (of course he couched it in historical terms of never really having been a winnable situation in the first place) and called for the removal of Rummy and a defacto withdrawal after the elections.
Posted by snark at November 2, 2006 06:22 AMListening to the news this morning, it's obvious that the Dems have hit their turning point - once again, we're going to be treated to the spectacle of watching an election that should be theirs on silver platter (and was!) be reversed in matter of days into another razor-thin Republican victory. Once again, the Dems have managed to fumble unquestionable victory into a defeat by playing into the media's biases.
Kerry's apology is the headliner this morning, linked to Bush's Western campaign barnstorm, and Kerry's savage attack on the GOP is no where to be heard. Quotes from Tony Snow are broadcasting, but nothing from Kerry's mouth is heard. And worse yet, the news services aren't even touching the context of the joke, but just repeating that Kerry insulted the troops and the poor.
The Dems are fucked.
Kerry should have kept his mouth shut after blistering the GOP and let that be the lede.
Posted by idiosynchronic at November 2, 2006 06:27 AMOh, and Hillary should be fucking ashamed of herself for screwing over the party's chances now for her own advancement in the Presidential contest.
I notice that the "Dems disapproving of Kerry's comments" in the above top of the hour radio summary went unnamed.
Posted by idiosynchronic at November 2, 2006 06:31 AMLooks like I better go back to hand wringing!
Posted by snark at November 2, 2006 06:38 AMOh, and Hillary should be fucking ashamed of herself for screwing over the party's chances now for her own advancement in the Presidential contest.
Queen Hillary had a chance to be president?
That statement overlooks a few splendidly qualified Democrats such as Al Gore, Russ Feingold and Barack Obama.
Any of whom would be preferable in my opinion to Queen Hillary.
Posted by Christopher at November 2, 2006 06:44 AMWell, yeah, Christopher. I don't know Hilly has a chance - snark might say she does since he lives in NY and reads her press - but I assert that Hillary, in her attempt to run for Congress, smashed Democratic chance of winning in 5 days.
Posted by idiosynchronic at November 2, 2006 07:00 AMCan we dump zeros like Peter? Who needs to run into that kind of partisan stupidity on a progressive website?
Posted by at November 2, 2006 07:05 AMidiosynchronic,
I'm a New Yorker and I will vote to send her back to the US Senate next Tuesday. She's not perfect, but she's tons better than her repuke challenger.
She seems to have "evolved" on the gay marriage equity, so maybe there's hope for her on withdrawing the troops from Iraq too?
Posted by Christopher at November 2, 2006 07:05 AMI don't know Hilly has a chance - snark might say she does since he lives in NY and reads her press...
I'm sure if she gets the nomination in 2008 she would carry New York State. I'm not sure she will win the NY Primary though.
...but I assert that Hillary, in her attempt to run for Congress, smashed Democratic chance of winning in 5 days.
Huh? How did she do that?
Posted by snark at November 2, 2006 07:06 AMMolly's column this morning is good.
(The picture is awful - for a firm that represents her, Creator's Syndicate has an awfully bad habit of finding the worst photos they can and posting them to her page.)
Posted by idiosynchronic at November 2, 2006 07:07 AMI made the recommendation that Kerry should enter rehab for bad joke telling and foot in mouth disease! Mark Foley, former chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children said he would have none of that, as he was getting his massage at his Tucson retreat.
Posted by Seven of Six at November 2, 2006 07:19 AMId, I've heard that her cancer has progressed.
Posted by Seven of Six at November 2, 2006 07:20 AMAnybody notice gas prices increasing?
Posted by Seven of Six at November 2, 2006 07:56 AMSOS, gas is going up slowly here, the jump will happen next week. I heard the same thing about Molly, such a bummer. She's one in a million.
Posted by iamcoyote at November 2, 2006 08:18 AMId, et al., as you can tell by my previous posts, I'm mad as Hell at Kerry, his hoof in mouth disease and Billary and others ENABLING the Wholly Owned Corporate Media machine to once again, control the discussion. Emal's "Battered Democrat syndrome" is spot on, although I'm not so sure it's entirely hapless on the part of some Democrats.
What pisses me off so much is that Kerry should have Shut the Hell Up after he gave the proper response to such transparent hypocrisy. Why the friggin' HELL does he think it's smart to go on friggin' Imus and go off message with his friend? If he hadn't committed verbal diahrrea, the media couldn't have ignored the hard hitting message. You have to FORCE the bastards to commit journalism, once in a while.
All that said, I really don't think that bubble-boy Kerry has sunk our chances, even with the full court press of the press. I believe voters will have forgotten all this vacuous pap by election day. The reason we're going to win (whether the vote count relfects it or not) is Iraq, the culture of corruption, the rotten economy for 80% of the population and simple buyers' remorse.
Let's despise stupidity and venality on the part of our LEADERSHIP but don't despair. The election is really about fundamentals this time. Let's just make sure we crush them at the polls.
Posted by DeminNewJ at November 2, 2006 08:19 AMDuno, but I believe that what Kerry did (fumble a line) wouldn’t have gotten as much media time as it did if those amply known “runners” from his party wouldn’t have been so ready and quick to hysterically shout that he apologize. As a matter of fact, if those who did the bloody “hystericals” trying to save their political behinds would have caught the ball and run with it (since there was plenty ammunition tied to what Kerry had said to kick back with fury, such as):
“No Democrat will be bullied by an administration that has a cut and run policy in Afghanistan and a stand still and lose strategy in Iraq.” Or,
“The people who owe our troops an apology are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it.”
perhaps this, yet another, media circus that has ensued following a nothing issue would have been averted.
Who knows, if above would have been the case, instead of having Kerry’s silly faux pas (blasted in yellow periodicals by even more yellow journalistic useful idiots), the really important matters put on the news for serious discussion would be what is, truly, a bloody fumble: Indeed, such as this uncalled for, hopelessly mismanaged Iraq war and all the victims that this unmitigated fiasco has been gathering during its path since the onset of this out of the realm of possibilities other bloody quagmire.
After all, isn’t this a man who’s amply proven by his actions that he is for the troops? Why, then, would he turn around and insult them? No doubt, omitting that idiotic “us” was, as everyone has seen, a huge mistake but, as apparently James Carville pointed on "Situation Room," CNN, 10/31, the following says better what I’m trying to say since, neither I, am able to understand exactly was the problem is…
"It is much easier to say, I botched a joke, than to say, I botched a war. And he was very frank. ... He gave an explanation. And, as I say, Senator Kerry is one of the great war heroes to ever serve in the Congress. He has about a 100 percent record when it comes to the veterans. So, I don't understand exactly what the problem is. He didn't owe anybody an apology. He owed an explanation"
Time, I believe, for democrats to stop feeding the frenzy by supporting not only what Kerry said (including the apology he made which, as I read it, was mainly aimed at soldiers and their families) but also more than plenty time to hone in on the many hard kicking balls that the man provided with his gutsy response to Snow and blast them all over creation.
The two hard kicking balls already mentioned would do, but there are other ones that also merit some good kicking around, such as:
“I’m sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did.” Or,
“It disgusts me that these Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country lie and distort so blatantly and carelessly about those who have.”
…Jeebus, I’d thought that everyone was feed-up of softly carried responses to the blatantly misleading mammoth heaps of horse manure that have been most of the attacks sent on Kerry’s way (and/or anyone daring to disagree with the political status quo) since times immemorial, it seems…
PAZ
Hey everybody, muckdog made a comment on his post after he thought the thread was dead.
Dogpile!!
Posted by Seven of Six at November 2, 2006 08:30 AMWell, the jury is in -- the Big Three are slanted WAY to the left. They favor Democrats and liberals in 77% of the stories they produce, while only giving a positive nod to 12% of stories dealing with Republicans.
The study was conducted by an objective group that simply watched the stories put out primarily by NBC, CBS and ABC.
Read more at http://sopebocks.blogspot.com/
The study was conducted by an objective group that simply watched the stories put out primarily by NBC, CBS and ABC.
And funded by the RNC.
Posted by idiosynchronic at November 2, 2006 11:05 AM