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[Editor: ignore=off]Bendover, whatever, when an Iraqi kills a uniformed soldier in Iraq, invading from another country, well, ... I almost want to say who can blame them, but I am an American and it is my Army being killed and I hate it. I support the troops in every way : pay, care, training, benefits after, family allowance, and most importantly, I won't waste them.
I differ from my fellow Liberals in seeing huge US deaths. We will kill in huge swaths rather than have some Alamo scenario. Massive airpower can clear a way home. It will also clear the air on just what kind of stupid are we to get into that mess, and what kind of racist horrorshow we are when the shit goes down.
Posted by Richard W. Crews at January 2, 2007 09:11 PMBush will escalate so that he avoids, at least in his own mind, another Vietnam...
Evidently Bush doesn't realize that there were escalations in Vietnam as well. That's how they finally came to have 56,000 names on the wall.
So far his "strategy" has been to stay the course. Now he wants to act like Johnson and Nixon and escalate to win. And like Vietnam, he sees expanding war into a neighboring state will really do the trick.
With Bush's track record the next couple of years will be even worse than Johnson's run. Please Lord, make him stop deciding.
Posted by Mary at January 2, 2007 10:07 PMSo entrenched have been the military doubts that one adviser said that there had been no serious discussion of the “surge” strategy until it was proposed by an outside group of military thinkers about a month ago.
The Times of London must be mistaking the chicken hawks from the AEI as "military thinkers" because as far as I know, only McCain has seen any military duty and he seems to love wasting lives for his own dream of glory.
I'd love to see how the Times of London would have depicted Custer's last stand: "Brave and undaunted, Custer orders his men to take on the savages. The world waits to hear of his tremendous victory."
Posted by Mary at January 2, 2007 10:14 PMIt's pretty clear: we're all Aztecs now, shedding blood so that the sun will return tomorrow. So, all the human sacrifice is in a good cause no:? Jeez,if W had only told us about this 3+ years ago, we'd all be strong supporters of his policies -- maybe he can make the rains behave, but if he doesn't he's out of there toot sweet.
Posted by Brian Boru at January 2, 2007 10:23 PMWell, Mr. Predictability is predictable. We all knew that escalation would be his plan for a new direction. So, it's "stay the course", but only with more military troops. Oh well, life goes on and George will be given the okay to kill more people, including Americans (except his daughters, of course).
Posted by Judith at January 2, 2007 11:39 PMHoly fuckin crap. Synergy, people. Keith, us. Shall we all put a fucking stop to this fucking pointless murder or not?
Posted by Sharkbabe at January 3, 2007 12:51 AMI'm so bored with Keith. MSNBC is the same network that made fun of Cynthia McKinney for her attempt at a resolution to impeach Bush. I don't trust any of the tittering anchormen. Why can't Cynthia be up there in his place, speaking the TRUTH instead of a shill for ratings Keithie?
Posted by Mal Feasance at January 3, 2007 05:43 AMthe numbers are wrong; you have to include the wounded, maimed and permanently disabled, whether mentally or physically.
this goes to the tens of thousands, lest we forget?
and we, as americans part of our planet can't ignore the people of the other countries that have been killed, then we go into the hundreds of thousands.
how about the waste and the spent uranium shells in the countries?
anyone know if Kuwait released any info about this after the first war? who cleaned up their mess?
much to add up for a conclusion, we must keep the total. like the holocaust, those responsible and those that benefitted, will do their best to obfuscate fact. Since today's government has nothing to do with facts, you can see what I mean
Posted by oldtree at January 3, 2007 07:26 AMBush's surge treats Iraq once again as a police force taming the local gangs. Juxtapose the very nature of a war strategizes its battles to arrive at a common goal, a war is never designed to send its troops out to follow insurgents around the neighborhood. And that is because a war is defined by commitment and Bush, though Karen is good at names, has never committed himself or his foreign policy to pony up. Just like we have watched our govt reduce itself to a single branch, Bush has demanded that the military engage this war single handedly. This surge once again is not backed by diplomacy of any sort - unless of course you count Pat Roberts declaration that 2007 will bring a huge attack by the terrorists as incentive to excuse Bush from the room and let the military handle the dirty work.
Posted by mainsailset at January 3, 2007 07:32 AMThe BBC report is probably referring to a couple of retired generals, Kean and Barno, who supposedly support the AEI/Kagan Surg-culation and are the military "cover".
Great point about the frequent escalations in Vietnam. The more that Iraq is equated with Vietnam, the better. People don't remember these things because we live in an age of ahistorical, mindless ignorant nonreaders, aided and abetted by our stupifying television infotainments.
It doesn't look like anyone is going to try to head Deadeye off from announcing his foolish and immoral escalation next week. Is this the Dem strategy---give Nero the rope with which to hang himself? Or will they appease him, by cravenly bleating that the "Commander-in-Chief" is all powerful and whatever can be done?
Posted by euzoius at January 3, 2007 07:41 AMThe parallels to Viet Nam are especially close when you consider that the same slavering vulture, Henry "the K" Kissinger has been sitting on W's shoulder whispering the same insane venoms he fed to Gerry Ford and Tricky Dick.
The very same strategist is still losing the Viet Nam war for a whole new generation. If the embalmers don't cut off his head, sutff it with garlic and place it between his feet when he finally passes into undeath, I have few doubts the old German strategic genius will find a way to fuck up yet another generation of Americans.
Could he be a runaway Death weapon, released by a desperate Hitler in the waning days of the war? Just like the Beserkers, death machines in Fred Saberhagen's science fiction series, that live on and mutate after the races that both created them and for which they were built are both long gone. They "live" only to destroy. Sort of like Henry.
Posted by DeminNewJ at January 3, 2007 08:53 AM"Here's this week's episode of.....
Axiomatic Truths Of The Universe Theater:
"Every time a bell rings, an angel gets their wings."
"Every time you masturbate, God kills a kitten."
And, of course, the most immutable, axiomatic TRUTH of them ALL:
Every time George W. Bush utters the word:
"Sacrifice"
another American will
DIE.
Posted by Nyc Alberts at January 3, 2007 10:00 AMIllslam kills thousands of Americans here and over there and all the lying left does about it is obstruct and malign the commander in chief, thereby facilitating the continued killing of Americans.
Posted by Usama Ben Ditto at January 2, 2007 09:00 PM
Putsch and the Republican'ts still, even today, kill thousands of Americans here and over there and all the lying hypocritical Reich wingnuts do about it is obstruct and malign those brave enough to stand up to the mad tyrant currently in control of the greatest military in human history, thereby facilitating the continued killing of Americans.
Hope you enjoy those thirty pieces of silver, traitor. Maybe you can buy enough cleanser to disinfect your soul with your ill-gotten gains.
Posted by (: Tom :) at January 3, 2007 10:19 AMyou folks have all the answers, don't you? What a bunch of monday morning quarterbacks!!!
There is no answer to Iraq. This is the biggest foreign policy blunder in American history. Of course, if the point is to depopulate the Middle East by fomenting civil war and widely desseminating depleted uranium munition residue, it may be a success by the Club of Rome standards.
For the US, however, it is tragic. A constant and ever increasing drain on the Treasury and on the brave, if deluded, men and women who make up our military forces. It almost seems like GWB and his neo-con masters are purposefully running the Republic into the ground.
Can't have a NWO unless standards of living are equalized I guess.....
Posted by brisa at January 3, 2007 01:52 PM"you folks have all the answers, don't you? What a bunch of monday morning quarterbacks!!!"
So tell us Jeff, what are the answers?
Jeff, you're a little late to the game, but it's not "Monday morning Quarterbacking" if one foresaw and predicted the events ahead of the game, right?
Many on the Left largely predicted exactly what came to pass in Iraq---and are making further predictions about what's going to happen now. Maybe you should listen to those who made correct projections in the past and not those wingnut clowns who never get anything right.
Posted by euzoius at January 3, 2007 02:36 PMeuzoius
again, hindsight is what? 20-20? you've proven my point perfectly, thanks.
"Many on the Left largely predicted exactly what came to pass in Iraq" gimme a break! sure they predicted what happened...AFTER IT HAPPENED!!!
give me one example of "who predicted what, and when"
Posted by JEFF at January 4, 2007 05:32 AMJeff, you apparently don't know the difference between hindsight and foresight. Get out the dictionary. Or think of it as "Sunday morning quarterbacking".
And if you didn't spend all your time at right-wing internet shit troughs, maybe you'd have seen some of the Iraq predictions which ultimately came to pass. Like I said, you're late to the game, and I'm not about to spend time "educating" you on the subject.
Posted by euzoius at January 4, 2007 09:13 AM