Comments: Open Thread - The Cheney Poison Continues

once again, Cheney/Bush shaping intelligence to fit the policy (as said by the head of British intelligence about US actions leading up to the Iraq invasion.

They are masters of the big lie, and all the little lies it takes to make the big one plausible.

Posted by JimPortlandOR at February 28, 2007 11:33 PM

I would have never thought I would be saying this, but I'm worried that as we are increasingly in the majority in our criticism of Mr. Cheney, a criticism he has done so much to deserve, we'll let his boss off the hook. George W. Bush is President. Bufoon or not, it's his show. Last night, I read Nancy Pelosi saying to Larry King:

PELOSI: I think he believes he is on the right course even though the facts on the ground speak to a different reality. And I just don’t know, but I don’t think he’s getting good advice. I think that he is receiving advice that is wrong, has been from the start. I think they thought when they went in the first day, that it was going to end in one strike — they take out Saddam Hussein and they would have a great victory. The fact is, even if they had, they would still be faced with all of this civil strife in Iraq that they have now. They did not know what they were getting into. They do not know the damage that they have caused. And I think the judge — his judgment is severely impaired on this war, with all due respect to the president and his good intentions.

Poor well meaning little Georgie - bad advice. In this area, I accept the Unitary Executive Theory. They buggered up our country good and proper. May the four remaining horsemen share the apocolypse together as a Unit: Bush, Cheney, Rove, and Rice.

But I don't miss your point either - more Cheney poison indeed...

Posted by Mickey at March 1, 2007 03:07 AM

What is it going to take to impeach this crew? We have reached a point where administration malfeasance is so great that I think congress is too embarrassed by its gross lack of oversight to begin proceedings. I am beginning to think that they would much rather let the killing and maiming continue until 2008 rather than further expose their own complicity. Democrats and the GotOursPissoff party would rather whine about 'partisanship' than take meaningful action, hoping to divert attention from their abysmal performance. We have a gang of criminals in the White House and Justice Department. It is long past time for congress to do its damn job!

Posted by Via at March 1, 2007 03:58 AM

What the hell is taking the jury so long in the Scooter trial?????????? Jeez!

Posted by Judith at March 1, 2007 05:07 AM

what everybody said.

Posted by Sharkbabe at March 1, 2007 05:12 AM

Didn't we already pay off N Korea to stop making nukes? Such fiscal responsibility - pay them to stop making what they aren't making in the first place.

Posted by ann at March 1, 2007 05:13 AM

Didn't we already pay off N Korea to stop making nukes?

The Mad King, idiot son of George, buggered that early in his OJT as pretzledent.


What is it going to take to impeach this crew?

For Princess Sparkle Pelosi to stop sucking at the sow's teat of corporate special interest. Just understand that you will never see impeachment. Look at the "miracle" of the 1st 100 hours. You won't get that stuff either, as lame as it is. The corporations don't approve of it.

Posted by phidipides at March 1, 2007 05:57 AM

They were making nuclear weapons.

But only because the Bush administration facilitated it.

Posted by snark at March 1, 2007 06:00 AM

What is it going to take to impeach this crew?

Ask Madam Pelosi, Via.

She's the one who said, "Impeachment is off the table."

Far better for our country to have 22 months of hearings and investigations and meaningless feel good non-binding resolutions that aren't worth the paper their written on.

By the time January 2009 gets here, how many more Americans will have needlessly died in Iraq?

Posted by Christopher at March 1, 2007 06:01 AM

And why didn't the Bush-Cheney cabal want an agreement with North Korea? Because Bill Clinton had negotiated one that appeared to work. It's of a piece with everything the criminals running our country have done for the past six years: everything for their perceived political advantage, nothing for the good of the nation. They should have been impeached years ago. Given the hundreds of thousands of deaths they're now responsible for, they should be hanged.

Posted by dalloway at March 1, 2007 06:02 AM

What saved North Korea from the neocons in the Bush junta is China. Big, powerful, nuclear China.

Plus, North Korea doesn't have oil. Unlike Iraq and Iran.

Posted by Christopher at March 1, 2007 06:04 AM

It is amazing how incompetant this Cheney and Bush are at everything but putting oil and dollars in their friends pockets. I am not as frustrated with Pelosi as a lot of you seem to be. She and the Democrats are trying to manuver with a very antagonist press. The press is just looking for reasons to take ownership of Iraq off of Bush and show how "out of touch" the Democrats are. She is between a rock and hard place.

Posted by allansfca at March 1, 2007 06:18 AM

Oh dear, allansfca, now you're in for it. Christopher will soon be making up a cute nickname for you for your explosive comments about Pelosi. He hates when people give the Dems a chance!

As for Albright, he's probably speaking out because he's pissed that the Cheney admin are using his name to push the idea that Iran is a year from enriching uranium, when his report said the opposite.

Anyone see this piece of fluff?

U.S. Knew of Threats as Cheney Visited Base

“We know for a fact that there has been recent intelligence to suggest that there was the threat of a bombing in the Bagram area,” the spokesman, Col. Tom Collins, said at a news briefing in Kabul.

“It is clear there are suicide bombers’ cells operating in this country,” he said. “There are some operating in the city of Kabul and, as our intelligence suggests, they had the capability in the Bagram area.”

"We know for a FACT that intelligence SUGGESTS..."

Hilarious!

Posted by iamcoyote at March 1, 2007 06:43 AM

Stupid italics tag won't stay put...

Posted by iamcoyote at March 1, 2007 06:45 AM

iamcrapola: Christopher will soon be making up a cute nickname for you for your explosive comments about Pelosi.

Your obsession with me has reached the pathological level. Get back on your meds.

Posted by Christopher at March 1, 2007 06:48 AM

The italics work just fine. Maybe it's a user problem?

Posted by Christopher at March 1, 2007 06:50 AM

Your obsession with me

Don't flatter yourself, honey. I'm merely amused by your lameness.

Some "rebound," huh?

Posted by iamcoyote at March 1, 2007 07:02 AM

The "conservative" authoritarian Right hasn't been able to think clearly about N. Korea for decades. Clinton's diplomatic focus made them apoplectic. They're wild with outrage over this stab in the back.

And what must the neocons think of this "regional conference" with Iraq's demonic neighbors? What will Perle, Krauthammer, Kristol and Bolton do when Condi is playin' Brahms for Ayatollah Khamanei, with Ahmadinejad accompanying on the zither? Neocons aen't really comforted by the fact that we at least got our Iraqi Oil Law.

You have to wonder if Deadeye isn't losing some of his grip, and if the Pace n' Gates show isn't starting to have some kind of weird effect within Bushco.

What's a bigger concern for Deadeye: neo-con ideology or bringin' home the bacon for the military-industrial complex? Insanity over dealing with hapless (but evil, evil) N.Korea (like demonic Cuba!) is usually the special province of the ideologically delusional neocon.

Posted by euzoius at March 1, 2007 07:22 AM

iamcrapola:: Don't flatter yourself, honey.

OK, pumpkin. I guess your weave to just too tight. LOL!

Posted by Christopher at March 1, 2007 07:22 AM

You have to wonder if Deadeye isn't losing some of his grip,

euzoius, did you see that dKos article yesterday about Cheney insisting reporters on the plane refer to him as a "senior administration official" even though his statements clearly identified him as the VP? He has lost his mind, and now he's just one big chunk of mean.

Posted by iamcoyote at March 1, 2007 07:34 AM

Ha-Ha---no, I hadn't seen that, coyote. Dick Cheney: "senior adminstration official"!

Well, at least it's true, sort of a first for pronouncements from Deadeye....I wonder if the bold stenographic corps complied with His Madness's demand?

Posted by euzoius at March 1, 2007 07:54 AM

Well, someone must have squealed, euzoius, if the story made it to dKos. No doubt it's part of Cheney's fanatical need for secrecy.

Posted by iamcoyote at March 1, 2007 08:28 AM

Don’t dare forget the aggressive, saber-rattling, in-your-face foreign policy this misadministration has pursued from Day One.

When the lesson to the world from the “Axis of Evil” is that the more likely you are to have nukes, the LESS likely the US is to attack you, who in their right mind WOULDN’T want nukes to hold Bushco back?

Posted by bartcopfan at March 1, 2007 08:42 AM

McCain used the "wasted" word describing lives and treasure in Iraq on Letterman last night.

Will he have to apologize ala Obama today???

Posted by TIKI AL at March 1, 2007 08:54 AM

As Iraq continues to deteriorate dispte the escalation, expect the noise machine to deflect critisism by claiming the war effort was stabbed in the back.

Posted by herbal tee at March 1, 2007 11:05 AM
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